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Topic review - Calling all USS Midway class (CVB-41) Fans
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  Post subject:  Aircraft Carriers, USS Midway (CV41)  Reply with quote
After receiving my 1/350 Trumpeter USS Midway I purchased the 3D-Wild upgrade set of 1946-48 3D-printed bridge, inner propeller shafts, forward and central (tripod) mast, crane, fire control directors and all eighteen 5-in. guns (equally divided between port and starboard versions). No instructions came with them, so I assumed a simple replacement of the Trumpeter plastic parts. However, I also purchased the Eduard parts 2 and 3 photoectch set, which is designed for replacing parts on the Trumpeter as-built version. I had wanted to build the 1947 upgrade version, but by this time, according to photos of the ship taken that year, the four starboard side mesh antennas had been removed and there were over a dozen whip antennas attached below both sides of the flight deck. Neither the 3D-Wild upgrade set nor Trumpeter's or Eduard's upgrades include these whip antennas. Furthermore, the 3D-Wild set does not include the (apparent) fire control device that replaced the original (MK 37) fire control director in front of the bridge that was moved in the 1947 upgrade to the top front of the bridge. This lack of certainty as to how to fully "upgrade" the Trumpeter kit may lead me to build it in the original "as completed" version, for which the Trumpeter and Eduard sets should be adequate and accurate. Unfortunately, I spent the extra money for the upgraded 1947 bridge that I now cannot use and for which 3D-Wild provided insufficient information on how to adapt the various Trumpeter parts that were still in use, as well as which radars to now use (the SK2 atop the forward mast was replaced with a different type).
Followup: By scrutinizing several high-def photos of the Midway from mid-1947 I can safely deduce that the heretofore unknown fire control device immediately in front of the 1947 rebuilt bridge is the original (more or less) one that was in place from the Trumpeter set -- but the original cylindrical base that held the Bk 37 fire control director has been absorbed into the newly lengthened bridge. That issue aside, I still can't find a reliable source for the exact radars and their location on the tripod mast, or how to scratch-build the numerous antennas along the edge of the flight deck, so I will just build the full Trumpeter version with Eduard photoetch sets-- the USS Midway as commissioned.
Post Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 8:07 pm
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FFG-7 wrote:
I presume you mean when she was 1st commissioned in Sept 1945?


Yes or early post war state.
Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:43 pm
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I presume you mean when she was 1st commissioned in Sept 1945?
Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:27 pm
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Anybody have good quality drawings of Midway in her commissioned state?
Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:14 pm
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you are welcome.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:02 pm
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Ah! All is clearer now. Thank you. Maurice
Post Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:50 pm
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I'm pretty certain it is not planking but anti-skid mats due to the layout.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:52 pm
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This image of Franklin D. Roosevelt circa 1950s, also from Ray Bean's set, also seems to show fore-and-aft planking.


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:12 pm
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I don't think that is planking as it is parallel to the ship's centerline as all previous carriers had the planking perpendicular to the ship's centerline. go thru this link to see if wood planking used on the flight deck. http://www.midwaysailor.com/midway/specifications.html
Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:57 pm
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I am well aware that the Midway class were the first US carriers with armoured flight decks. Essentially, all US carriers from Lexington to the Essex class had steel flight decks with wood sheathing on top, primarily for anti-skid purposes (I understand). This image, from Ray Bean's Midway class set, seems to show fore-and-aft planklng on the flight deck, and he refers consistently in the section covering the ships' early careers to the use of blue flight deck stain (which implies wood since stain does not work on steel) but I've not located documentation of wood sheathing on their decks. That is why I was asking the question.

Thank you,
Maurice


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Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:39 pm
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the class were the 1st US aircraft carriers to have an armored flight deck so no wood there.
Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:00 pm
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Did the Midway-class carriers in their straight-deck configuration have a wood covering on the flight deck and, if so, in what pattern was it laid?

Maurice
Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:26 pm
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Greetings,

Took delivery of the 1/350 scale USS Midway last configuration from liners world. This is the design from YESTR Toys. $520.00 delivered. It is a pretty nice kit. Looks to be accurate. I have not measured it for accuracy, but it is pretty close, I think. It needs better radars, an air wing, and PE. One problem I have is that with Shapeways gone, I need a couple of detailed MK-25 BPDMS. Nobody makes them.

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various ... eady-model


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:06 am
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take a look at these links.
https://www.navsource.org/archives/02/41.htm
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/h ... y-iii.html
http://www.midwaysailor.com/midway/specifications.html
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:56 pm
  Post subject:  USS Midway radar antennas 1945  Reply with quote
Hello!
Trumpeter's USS Midway model was recently released. I plan to work on this model for some time. I do not have access to appropriate literature. I would like to make this model in the 1945 version, right after construction was completed. I am looking for information about radars installed during this period. On the middle mast you can see the SK-2 radar antenna, below there was one more antenna, but they can't find information on what type of radar this antenna is. There is a radar antenna on the middle mast, I think it is SPS-8, but I am not sure (I would be grateful for a hint), at the top of this mast there is probably an SG radar antenna, but I cannot determine in any way what kind of radar the antenna is on the rear mast . I am also not sure what radars were installed on the USS Midway at that time - the direct control tower Mk 37, or Mk 12/22, or maybe Mk 25. I will be grateful for a hint.
Post Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:18 pm
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Really nice job, Sean. Look at that, something finished. :smallsmile: :-)
Post Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:48 am
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Hi Sean,


Looks great! I am working on backdating the Coral Sea to a 1972 fit. Overall, I think that the Yestrtoys Kit is really good. I agree with you on the hanger bay. It takes a bit to clean that up. The mast and upper works need a little love along with the radars but a really great kit to start tinkering with.

Mark

https://yestrtoys.com/products/USS-Coral-Sea-p597879806
Post Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:34 am
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Back in... November or December, I think it was, somebody posted a link to a 3-D printed late-fit USS Coral Sea by Yestrtoys. Essential for my carrier collection, I bought one right away in 1:700 scale and have been working on her off-and-on ever since. She's finally finished, with the addition of some GMM photoetch and Trumpeter aircraft. Deck stripes are masked and painted, and hull and island numbers are spliced together from a Starfighter Decals USS Kitty Hawk & Constellation sheet. The kit is essentially in her 1989 final fit, but could represent late 70s-early 80s with minimal fuss.
The biggest challenge is that the whole think is printed in one piece - including the completely open hangar - which contains a forest of printing support struts, some of which got so dense as to require a saw blade to clear them out. I did choose to cut off the crane and upper mast and re-attach them later, to keep them from getting broken during the rougher phases of cleanup and construction. Some of those things that show how just because you can print it in one piece doesn't mean you should. But even so, glad to have CV-43 join my fleet.

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- Sean F.
Post Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:39 am
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Greetings,

Here is a link to the 3D-Wild announcement on their site.

https://3d-wild.com/pages/coming-soon


Mark
Post Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:11 am
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I am sure this will be all over Facebook and other model ship forums; Three D wild Miniatures will be releasing a post 1947 superstructure for converting the Midway to a later configuration and will also be releasing two different airwing sets. See here on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ipmsusa ... 2043812999

Exciting times for the Midway class aircraft carrier enthusiasts. Can't wait to see what's coming up next.
Post Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:25 pm

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