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Topic review - Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans
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  Post subject:  Flyhawk 1/350 5"/38 Mk 28 turrets quality  Reply with quote
Hi, please I would like to know if that turrets of Flyhawk has the correct shape and measures for using them in a 1/350 Iowa.
I was navigating on the web but I can´t find any review.
Many thanks.


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:16 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
I made these on my 1:192 Missouri and probably have pix somewhere of them from the hundreds of photos I took on board.
Post Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:53 am
  Post subject:  Re: 1/535 Tomahawk ABL models  Reply with quote
FFG-7 wrote:
find the abl dimensions then use this drawing to get the scale to make them.


7.06 m long and 2.13 m wide and 2.03 m high
Post Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:01 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/535 Tomahawk ABL models  Reply with quote
find the abl dimensions then use this drawing to get the scale to make them.


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Post Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:08 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/535 Tomahawk ABL models  Reply with quote
FFG-7 wrote:
at that scale, you can make the abl out of solid square tube plastic or similar. I am going to redo the 1 I made back in the 90's using that same Revell model before I had the plans that I now have of that ship.
BB-62 USS New Jersey Booklet of General Plans (1984) https://archive.org/details/bb62bogp1984
https://archive.org/details/ship-design ... collection


I've been looking for the booklet on one of the modernized ships.... thanks!

How would you go about in making the launchers?
Post Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:31 pm
  Post subject:  Re: 1/535 Tomahawk ABL models  Reply with quote
at that scale, you can make the abl out of solid square tube plastic or similar. I am going to redo the 1 I made back in the 90's using that same Revell model before I had the plans that I now have of that ship.
BB-62 USS New Jersey Booklet of General Plans (1984) https://archive.org/details/bb62bogp1984
https://archive.org/details/ship-design ... collection
Post Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:19 pm
  Post subject:  1/535 Tomahawk ABL models  Reply with quote
I just visited the Wisconsin over the Labor Day weekend and I got the Atlantis model in the gift shop. I want to make the model look like a modernized Iowa (either Wisconsin or New Jersey). While I think I could take care of the rest, my main problem would be the ABL's. Does anyone make them in the 1/535 scale (Model Monkey says he is completely booked on new projects to 2026)? Conversely, does anyone know where could I find the STL files to have the 3D printed?
Post Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:13 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
William Smallshaw wrote:
Fliger747 wrote:
Even heated, bunker fuel is like tar, cleaning the tanks must have been an ugly job.


Holes were cut in the hull to clean out the tanks during the switch.
Post Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:21 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Fliger747 wrote:
One of the things I found interesting in Ryan Szmansky's (Sp?) clips was the explanation of all the circular cutouts along the bilge line. Was for thoroughly cleaning and transitioning away from the Bunker Crude. The Japanese fleet was kept near TawiTawi for a good portion of the war just so they could essentially pump crude aboard , fuel oil becoming increasingly a limitation as the war wore on.


The Iowas were converted to burn “Navy distillate” (kerosine) during their recommissioning in the 1980s. The reason being, the rest of the fleet, gas turbine powered, burned distillate. No fuel handling systems remained to deal with bunker fuel, which, as pointed out, is unrefined crude oil. Even heated, bunker fuel is like tar, cleaning the tanks must have been an ugly job.
Post Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:38 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
One of the things I found interesting in Ryan Szmansky's (Sp?) clips was the explanation of all the circular cutouts along the bilge line. Was for thoroughly cleaning and transitioning away from the Bunker Crude. The Japanese fleet was kept near TawiTawi for a good portion of the war just so they could essentially pump crude aboard , fuel oil becoming increasingly a limitation as the war wore on.
Post Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:06 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
FFG-7 wrote:
what scale?


What a great question (I'm an idiot!)

I'm looking in 1/200. Got the trumpeter kit and the Pontos set is on the way.
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:50 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
chuck wrote:
I would have preferred the boot top be left at the place corresponding to her service draft. The new lowered boot top gives the ship a unrealistic, toy like proportion when viewed from afar


Chuck,

The boot topping/bottom paint has NOT changed its position since the ship was in mothballs in the late '90s. The waterline on a ship in storage is ALWAYS revised to reflect the lesser weight of the ship without stores, ammunition, or crew, etc. Here is a photo of NEW JERSEY I took in 2003 at my destroyer reunion after the ship became a museum:
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The waterline then is the same as now, no change. I agree it looks unrealistic, but then all museum ships carry similar traits - the Navy could care less!
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:27 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
bigjimslade wrote:
USS New Jersey is painted and looks ready to rejoin the fleet. She is in remarkable condition.

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I would have preferred the boot top be left at the place corresponding to her service draft. The new lowered boot top gives the ship a unrealistic, toy like proportion when viewed from afar
Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:51 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
what scale?
Post Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:44 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
I'm new to the forum, just spent 4 days reading through this post.

I'm going to build the 1944 USS Missouri in fancy camo, but I'll leave all the gun directors on. I'm waiting for the Pontos set as well and have some Eduard for Butt plates and Bofors as well. I won't be fixing any hull errors, as I doubt any of my audience will be versed enough in ships in general and the Iowa class in particular to know any better (nor do I have the skill and patience to fix those errors anyway). I think I will have enough with the kit and the AM!

I wanted to ask here if anyone not using 1 or two elevated "bloomers" would be willing to sell a couple to me? I'm in Canada and will gladly pay for the pieces and postage. I'd rather not buy the entire advanced set, just for those 2 parts...

Anyway, just to throw my credentials out, I've been a modeler most of my life, and I was a Sailor, and later an officer in the ROyal Norwegian Navy for a short while, I served on Mine layers, Fast Patrol Boats (MTB Hawk Class), and also Nordkapp class Coast Guard Vessel. My specialty was radio and optical communications. Nowadays I fly helicopters square in the middle of Canada.

Cheers and thanks for some amazing info!
Harald
Post Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:26 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
FFG-7 wrote:
thankyou. would those caulk seams be painted later when cured or left as is?


Now, they will be left as is.
in ye old days, they could get painted over at repainting.
Post Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:41 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
thankyou. would those caulk seams be painted later when cured or left as is?
Post Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:25 pm
  Post subject:  More on Caulk  Reply with quote
The caulk does at least two thing:
1. Smooths rough edges at joints
2. Seals riveted joints.

Most butts were welded. The upper two strakes were riveted with external butt straps and the next two strakes with internal butt straps.
Most seams were lapped. If the lap was greater than 3 3/4" the lap was riveted. if less, the lap was welded on both sides. Even these welded joints were caulked.
Post Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:11 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
who?
Post Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 11:14 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all USS Iowa BB-61 class fans  Reply with quote
Mr DP: I suspect the marine preservation experts have their technical regimens lined in a row and this is an optimal technique for the purpose intended.
Post Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 11:12 pm

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