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Does anyone know what the really dark gray sometimes used for Russian ships is called, and what the best match for it is? It's not the Baltic Fleet Gray, which isn't anywhere near dark enough. I've added a picture I found on airbase.ru so you can see what I mean, but I've also got pictures of Moskva (ex-Slava) and Admiral Chabanenko in the same color.
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Does anyone know what the really dark gray sometimes used for Russian ships is called, and what the best match for it is? It's not the Baltic Fleet Gray, which isn't anywhere near dark enough. I've added a picture I found on airbase.ru so you can see what I mean, but I've also got pictures of Moskva (ex-Slava) and Admiral Chabanenko in the same color.
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:29 am |
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Here is a photo of the Slava with blades stowed on the helicopter and hanger doors open. This is at 1/100 scale.
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Here is a photo of the Slava with blades stowed on the helicopter and hanger doors open. This is at 1/100 scale.
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:24 pm |
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Does anyone have good pictures of Moskva on the bottom of the Black sea?
Does anyone have good pictures of Moskva on the bottom of the Black sea?
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:13 pm |
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Does anyone have images of the interior of the Slava helicopter hanger?
Does anyone have images of the interior of the Slava helicopter hanger?
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:38 am |
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Very nice!
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Very nice!
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:49 pm |
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:55 pm |
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DrPR wrote: SA-N-6 on the fo'c'sle?
I have many photos of a crane alongside loading SS-N-12 Bazalt missiles.
Phil The crane stowed on the left in this picture.
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[quote="DrPR"]SA-N-6 on the fo'c'sle?
I have many photos of a crane alongside loading SS-N-12 Bazalt missiles.
Phil[/quote]
The crane stowed on the left in this picture.
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:55 am |
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some rich photo source
https://forums.airbase.ru/2006/09/t60201--tarkr-pr-1144-11442-shifr-orlan-kirov-frunze-kalinin-petr-ve.html
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:37 am |
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SA-N-6 on the fo'c'sle?
I have many photos of a crane alongside loading SS-N-12 Bazalt missiles.
Phil
SA-N-6 on the fo'c'sle?
I have many photos of a crane alongside loading SS-N-12 Bazalt missiles.
Phil
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:44 pm |
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I think I have seen it somewhere on this thread, but does anyone have images of the crane on the foredeck loading SA-N-6 missiles on the Kirov?
I think I have seen it somewhere on this thread, but does anyone have images of the crane on the foredeck loading SA-N-6 missiles on the Kirov?
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:19 pm |
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:12 pm |
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Oops! Looks like I sent one twice. Here is what should have been sent.
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Oops! Looks like I sent one twice. Here is what should have been sent.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:40 pm |
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Here are some photos, but not much help.
I have collected a lot of pictures of the Skavas from the Internet. I think the ship has very nice lines and I find it interesting how the Russian/Soviet ships are designed for much colder operating conditions that our ships.
One thing that really interested me was the Bazalt (Sandbox) missile launcher tubes on the forward part of the ship. I wonder if there is any armor on those things? The cruiser I was on had 45 ramjet Talos missiles and solid propellant boosters on the main deck, but inside a missile house with 1.5 inch thick armor plating around them. Still, it wouldn't take a very large cannon round to punch through that and set off 180,000 pounds of class B explosives (boosters), 13,500 pounds of class A explosives and about 3,600 gallons of JP-4 fuel. I was stationed in the missile house during General Quarters and that thought crossed my mind every now and then.
The Slavas had a lot of explosives and fuel sitting out there just waiting for someone to take a shot at them. I suspect that is what sank the Moskva - a Ukranian missile hitting one of the Bazalts. There is a low resolution photo of the ship before it sank showing the side of the forward superstructure blackened right where the Bazalts were.
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Here are some photos, but not much help.
I have collected a lot of pictures of the Skavas from the Internet. I think the ship has very nice lines and I find it interesting how the Russian/Soviet ships are designed for much colder operating conditions that our ships.
One thing that really interested me was the Bazalt (Sandbox) missile launcher tubes on the forward part of the ship. I wonder if there is any armor on those things? The cruiser I was on had 45 ramjet Talos missiles and solid propellant boosters on the main deck, but inside a missile house with 1.5 inch thick armor plating around them. Still, it wouldn't take a very large cannon round to punch through that and set off 180,000 pounds of class B explosives (boosters), 13,500 pounds of class A explosives and about 3,600 gallons of JP-4 fuel. I was stationed in the missile house during General Quarters and that thought crossed my mind every now and then.
The Slavas had a lot of explosives and fuel sitting out there just waiting for someone to take a shot at them. I suspect that is what sank the Moskva - a Ukranian missile hitting one of the Bazalts. There is a low resolution photo of the ship before it sank showing the side of the forward superstructure blackened right where the Bazalts were.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:36 pm |
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Does anyone have any pictures of the Slava helicopter hanger open with the helicopter entering or exiting? I’ve seen a few on here. I’m planning on modeling this on my 1/100 scale ship and making it functional. Thanks.
Does anyone have any pictures of the Slava helicopter hanger open with the helicopter entering or exiting? I’ve seen a few on here. I’m planning on modeling this on my 1/100 scale ship and making it functional. Thanks.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:27 am |
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There are images about half way down this page showing how the double arm trackway gravity davits work: https://www.okieboat.com/CAD%20miscellaneous.htmlPhil
There are images about half way down this page showing how the double arm trackway gravity davits work:
https://www.okieboat.com/CAD%20miscellaneous.html
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Timmy C wrote: The upright portion of the davit slides down the tracks of the "diagonal" portion with the boat hanging on until they reach the edge, at which point the boat is overhanging the side of ship and then lowered into the water. There's a diagram halfway down this page that shows it: https://www.hiseamarine.com/gravity-rol ... davit-4832Thanks for help. This could be a challenge to make functional at 1/100 scale.
[quote="Timmy C"]The upright portion of the davit slides down the tracks of the "diagonal" portion with the boat hanging on until they reach the edge, at which point the boat is overhanging the side of ship and then lowered into the water.
There's a diagram halfway down this page that shows it: https://www.hiseamarine.com/gravity-roller-or-sliding-track-davit-4832[/quote]
Thanks for help. This could be a challenge to make functional at 1/100 scale.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2023 7:06 pm |
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The upright portion of the davit slides down the tracks of the "diagonal" portion with the boat hanging on until they reach the edge, at which point the boat is overhanging the side of ship and then lowered into the water. There's a diagram halfway down this page that shows it: https://www.hiseamarine.com/gravity-rol ... davit-4832
The upright portion of the davit slides down the tracks of the "diagonal" portion with the boat hanging on until they reach the edge, at which point the boat is overhanging the side of ship and then lowered into the water.
There's a diagram halfway down this page that shows it: https://www.hiseamarine.com/gravity-roller-or-sliding-track-davit-4832
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Does anyone on here have any additional photos on this lifeboat on the Kirov? Also, any idea on how it is raised and lowered? Thanks!
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Does anyone on here have any additional photos on this lifeboat on the Kirov? Also, any idea on how it is raised and lowered? Thanks!
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