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Hello.

It seems that the torpedotubes have a roof/deck over them. They are pumping out water/oil mix from the hull. Must have been desperate hours...
Maybe they tried to tilt the ship from side to side.

I found a photo from Lofoten, com. Taken later and showing more colours! There are two dark colours on the splintershields. Dark grey and black? Or is that brown?

I had a lazy sunday with lady Penelope.
She is in 1/350 scale. I will use catapult and other details from Eduard's York set.

As before, some company will soon announce theirs... :rolf_3:

The question is when that photo was made.

[i]Penelope[/i] run aground off Fleinvær Light and was towed by [i]Eskimo[/i] to Skjelfjord.

The photo is labelled with tug "Sterkodderin". Geiir Haarr mentions in [i]The Battle for Norway[/i] the Norwegian repair vessel [i]Stærkodder[/i]. This ship arrived at the 13th of April in Skjelfjord - i.e. if the label refers to that ship and is correct, it would have been taken on the 13th of April or after. That would indicate that before she run aground, she was painted Home Fleet Grey... Really boring...

[quote="drasticplastic"][quote="drasticplastic"]So what were the colors and camo pattern BEFORE grounding, or at the beginning of the Second Battle for Narvik? Want to paint her at that period.
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Overall Home Fleet Gray?? How boring!
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[quote="DavidP"]https://www.world-war.co.uk/Arethusa/arethusa_class.php
https://www.world-war.co.uk/Arethusa/aurora.php[/quote]

Thank you David. I did come across these photos earlier, but none of them gave enough close-ups for a definite answer.

[quote="graham"]Hi HJ1985
I have a few Wright & Logan photos of her entering Portsmouth in 1945, their good close ups from various angles and I cant see any pom-pom director and type 282

Graham[/quote]

Thank you Graham, this is really helpful. Avagoodweekend!

Hi HJ1985
I have a few Wright & Logan photos of her entering Portsmouth in 1945, their good close ups from various angles and I cant see any pom-pom director and type 282

Graham

Hi all fans

Did HMS Aurora have pom-pom director and type 282 radar? don't think Flyhalk models these parts in its 1945 version.

Guest,

You might like to read the attachment to Dick's 8.58am Post of December 2020 on the "RN Ships' bottoms and boot-topping 1914 1950" thread as a starter on this one.

Hello to all the Royal Navy fans.

British ships are known to have been painted three different colors below the waterline during WW2: gray, black and red. However, it is unclear when and what color was every particular ship painted. Therefore, I would like to ask if anyone can confirm exactly what color was HMS Aurora painted below the waterline as of 1945. I need this info to paint the model of said ship by Flyhawk.

Thank you in advance.

[quote="Fivi_1241"]Hi guys,
I was thinking about buying HMS Aurora and backdating it to 1944 landing in southern France or maybe even further back in time, but I can't find any sources on how Aurora looked like back then. Links on the first page of this topic aren't very precise either.

Are changes in light AA the only ones to occur on Aurora in the last year of war? And what would her camouflage be in 1944? I absolutely love Admiralty Standard Scheme, but I don't think Aurora could be painted that way during operation Dragoon.[/quote]

So, the best I can do is point you to this link.

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060020124

Aurora was part of Operation Slapstick, the allies occupation of Taranto, and was a cameraship for a assigned film crew. There is something like 30 mins of footage that you can comb through that may give you the camoflauge pattern aurora wore in 1943.

All:

Flyhawk's 1/700 HMS Penelope kit has the 4" HA AA gun deck atop the aft deckhouse covered entirely with wooden planks. See here (scroll down):

https://toylandhobbymodelingmagazine.press/2017/09/20/flyhawk-model-1700-fh1109-hms-penelope-1940-deluke-edition-full-review/

But most, if not all RN cruisers from this period had steel decks atop their aft deckhouses, with just the working areas around any AA guns there covered by wood planking. See, for instance, these pictures of HMAS Sydney: https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-sydney-ii-part-5 (scroll down a bit to get to the photos).

Norman Ough's plans of HMS Penelope seem to show the deck covered completely by wooden planks (though it is hard to tell here):

https://www.vintagemodelplans.com/products/full-size-printed-plans-scale-1-96-arethusa-class-light-cruiser-h-m-s-penelope-l-63-suitable-for-radio-control

But this Norman Ough model held by the IWM shows the aft deckhouse covered by a steel AA deck, painted in dark gray:

https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30018157

So would anyone have any photos or reliable plans of HMS Penelope that could clarify this matter?

Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated, as I hoped that the Flyhawk HMS Penelope would be a quick build, but as usual, complications quickly pile up... sigh, LOL!

Thanks!

Mike E.

Hi guys,
I was thinking about buying HMS Aurora and backdating it to 1944 landing in southern France or maybe even further back in time, but I can't find any sources on how Aurora looked like back then. Links on the first page of this topic aren't very precise either.

Are changes in light AA the only ones to occur on Aurora in the last year of war? And what would her camouflage be in 1944? I absolutely love Admiralty Standard Scheme, but I don't think Aurora could be painted that way during operation Dragoon.

Thanks Tim. I thought it must be, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to turn it on either beam.

thanks
Mike

According to Theo Ballance [i]The Squadrons and Units of the Fleet Air Arm[/i] (Tonbridge: Air-Britain, 2016), she carried an EIIIH catapult from completion until it was removed during her repairs after the Norwegian campaign (August 1940). The "E" means extendible.

She was allocated one Seafox (serial K8588) throughout.

I'm Building Flyhawk's HMS Penelope, prior to the Norwegian campaign. Was the catapult telescopic and which is the correct aircraft for her in the first few months of the war, the Seafox or Walrus?

thanks
Mike

Regarding the camouflage of Penelope in 1940: a photo in HMS [i]Pepperpot[/i] shows that the light colour (white) was added before she got the heavy list, because the dirt is clearly over the light colour. This indicates the camouflage was NOT applied during the repairs, but before. But when? Still in Scapa Flow? Could it be an experimental camouflage for coastal areas, perhaps even both for winter in Scapa Flow (is there snow??) and in Norway...

From what I can understand, Aurora’s 1945 fit was primarily due to her 1943 refit. At the end of Aerthusa’s 1944 repair/refit, was she very similar to Aurora’s fit with the exception quad 40s replacing the quad 2 pounders? Where can I find a resource for Arethusa's 1944 fit? Thanks, Rich

If an argument can be made that Penelope had been repainted in Home Fleet Gray before leaving Scapa, then wouldn't a temporary scheme of white over the gray have been more appropriate than white and brown against the backdrop of the steep bare-sided cliffs of the Norwegian fiords? Just trying to rule out the possibility of the Home Fleet Gray scheme.
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Assuming IF Penelope was wearing the Flotta Scheme, which contained brown and white (and light gray, light green, and black) up until being grounded, could the grays, greens, and black have been overpainted with more white leaving only the brown and white areas as pictured?
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