The Ship Model Forum

The Ship Modelers Source
It is currently Sun Aug 03, 2025 1:45 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post a reply
Post icon:
None
Username:
Subject:
Message body:
Enter your message here, it may contain no more than 60000 characters. 

Font size:
Font colour
Options:
BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are OFF
Disable BBCode
Do not automatically parse URLs
Question
What is the name in the logo in the top left? (hint it's something dot com):
This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
   

Topic review - Calling all Russian submarine fans
Author Message
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Just received my Iron Shipwrights Sierra II today. Hefty chunk of resin!
What was your question?
Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 2:30 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Anyone else pick up Iron Shipwrights new Sierra I/II kits? I have some questions about hull shape/cross section. Will post pictures later.
Post Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 7:05 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Woodstock74 wrote:
Am I correct to think that the small maneuvering propellers the Russians use are "variable" geometry? That is, they can be planed/rotated for use, and they rotated so the blades are parrallel to travel direction (and lower drag)?


There is a photo of the Komsomolets wreck that shows one of the secondary propulsion motors (note these are essentially only for emergency use, like their U.S. and British counterparts):

https://i.imgur.com/Ge0m7OA.jpeg

The blades are rotated to feather as you mentioned, and you can see a circle at the blade root, which is highly suggestive of a controllable pitch propeller.

Jacob
Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 3:38 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Am I correct to think that the small maneuvering propellers the Russians use are "variable" geometry? That is, they can be planed/rotated for use, and they rotated so the blades are parrallel to travel direction (and lower drag)?
Post Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:46 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Wow, I'm impressed, that actually looks quite good. I suspect they used these plans, which I believe are quite accurate:

https://i.imgur.com/nDoI73K.png

Jacob
Post Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:50 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Takom has released a 1/350 Project 658M (Hotel) SSBN: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/11135558
Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:35 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Timmy C wrote:
Here's a close-up of that flag, posted by Capt_Navy on Twitter and credited to Alexandre Meneghini of Reuters. Resembles some kind of Spartan or other Ancient Greek hoplite with a Swordfish on the shield.


Good stuff Timmy. That answers that! Thanks.
Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:06 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Not as cool as USS INDIANA's Bad Ass Battle Bass, but still pretty sweet.

Dance
Post Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:42 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Here's a close-up of that flag, posted by Capt_Navy on Twitter and credited to Alexandre Meneghini of Reuters. Resembles some kind of Spartan or other Ancient Greek hoplite with a Swordfish on the shield.


Attachments:
Kazan flag from Reuters.jpg
Kazan flag from Reuters.jpg [ 411.54 KiB | Viewed 17501 times ]
Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:59 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Russian Nuclear-Powered Submarine Arrives in Cuba:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/06/12/russian-nuclear-powered-submarine-arrives-in-cuba-a85388

It's the Yasen Class Submarine Kazan. Wonder what is the black flag / symbol she is displaying on the side of her sail? Re-posted for ease of viewing, copyright rests with original owner:

Attachment:
AFP__20240612__34WH3EC__v1__HighRes__CubaRussiaWarships.jpg
AFP__20240612__34WH3EC__v1__HighRes__CubaRussiaWarships.jpg [ 306.53 KiB | Viewed 17512 times ]


A dragon perhaps? As that features in the coat of arms of the city of Kazan?
Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:45 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
And the Yankee Class screws, which were not skewback and probably emitted a significant "blade rate" low frequency for US sonar detections.


Attachments:
Yankee class SSBN props.jpg
Yankee class SSBN props.jpg [ 62.78 KiB | Viewed 21566 times ]
Yankee SSBN Screws.jpg
Yankee SSBN Screws.jpg [ 127.81 KiB | Viewed 21566 times ]
Yankeee class screws.jpg
Yankeee class screws.jpg [ 126.92 KiB | Viewed 21566 times ]
Post Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:56 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Dave, Mike,
Here are the Oscar propellers photos I have, and are Oscar II.
Oscar I is reported to have (depending on the source) either 4 or 5 blade non-skew screws. Probably similar to the Delta III and Papa 5 blade screws below
These are from Vepr's collection. He would probably answer himself but is busy on his research work.


Attachments:
Oscar stern-4.png
Oscar stern-4.png [ 630.26 KiB | Viewed 21567 times ]
Oscar stern-2.jpg
Oscar stern-2.jpg [ 109.98 KiB | Viewed 21567 times ]
Oscar stern -3.jpg
Oscar stern -3.jpg [ 133.05 KiB | Viewed 21567 times ]
Oscar blade tip shape.jpg
Oscar blade tip shape.jpg [ 48.12 KiB | Viewed 21567 times ]
Oscar stern from deck.jpg
Oscar stern from deck.jpg [ 94.62 KiB | Viewed 21567 times ]
File comment: Delta III 5 blade screws
Delta III class screws.jpg
Delta III class screws.jpg [ 426.93 KiB | Viewed 21564 times ]
File comment: Papa 5 blade screws
Papa in drydock.jpg
Papa in drydock.jpg [ 538.9 KiB | Viewed 21564 times ]
Post Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:47 am
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
I appreciate you considering the things I proposed and putting so much work in. Unfortunately pictures of OSCAR I screws are few (and are probably all screencaps from the same movie). I'll keep looking.

Cheers,

Dave
Post Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:33 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
ssn705 wrote:
Woodstock74 wrote:


Saw it yesterday. Very exciting. Especially with the hull break that could potentially make STRETCH, SIDECAR and NOTCH more easily possible :)

Planning on doing screws for it (and others I might have mentioned)?

Cheers,

Dave


Always a possibility of course. As for the Oscar I and Akula suggestion. The Akula was fairly straight forward but I haven't printed a production level yet, only a handful of prototypes. The Oscar is a pickle and I've been working on it on and off since the summer; without photos to go off of I'm using the Victor screw (the tandem-fixed screw like on the Mike) as a surrogate. And I'm struggling to get anything I like and for now avoiding reevaluating the Mike while I'm at it (but once I crack the Oscar I'll probably look at reworking the Mike).


it is unlike the Mike and more like the Victor but for now I just can't get it to look 'right'. And I'm avoiding reevaluating the Mike, and it'll probably need it once I crack the shape issues I'm running into with the Oscar I. And the shame of it all is that using the Victor screw as a surrogate, there are actually tons of photos from different angles and what I'm running into is a hardstop on my CAD abilities I think, for now.
Post Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:02 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Woodstock74 wrote:


Saw it yesterday. Very exciting. Especially with the hull break that could potentially make STRETCH, SIDECAR and NOTCH more easily possible :)

Planning on doing screws for it (and others I might have mentioned)?

Cheers,

Dave
Post Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:35 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Mikro-Mir doing a Yankee class:

https://www.facebook.com/mikro.mir.dnepr/posts/pfbid0zkCRNofdnpq2UZeRkf9rx9QVwS2eXv9xBuR15BSj9kTgEuLsBXeVxtuSFw9mBpjsl
Post Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:55 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Another screenshot...


Attachments:
Screenshot_20230805_211520_Chrome.jpg
Screenshot_20230805_211520_Chrome.jpg [ 610.66 KiB | Viewed 26617 times ]
Post Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:08 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Nice. Thanks Jacob. I love these old movies.

Dave


Attachments:
Screenshot_20230805_211536_Chrome.jpg
Screenshot_20230805_211536_Chrome.jpg [ 553.05 KiB | Viewed 26618 times ]
Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:38 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
ssn705 wrote:
Anyone happen to have a picture of OSCAR I with the early tandem screws.

Dave


Dave,

See this 1983 Soviet film about Project 949:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk29x3u928o

The propellers are at 5:10.

Jacob
Post Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:55 pm
  Post subject:  Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans  Reply with quote
Anyone happen to have a picture of OSCAR I with the early tandem screws.

Dave
Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:02 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group