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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:44 am |
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Sorry wrong thread ...
Sorry wrong thread ...
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:20 am |
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 So the question is, were masts and rigging taken off before the attack by the crew or by the airdefense during the attack? Questions over questions ... XXXDAn :-) :-) :-)
So the question is, were masts and rigging taken off before the attack by the crew or by the airdefense during the attack?
Questions over questions ...
XXXDAn
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:58 am |
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Recognizing the threat posed by Typhoons, Constitution's proposed 1944 upgrade included: Attachment:
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Possible damage to masts and rigging prevented the actual installation. Recognizing the threat posed by Typhoons, [i]Constitution[/i]'s proposed 1944 upgrade included:
[attachment=0]Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-J08339,_Ausbildung_an_der_Vierlings-Flak.jpg[/attachment]
Possible damage to masts and rigging prevented the actual installation.
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:07 am |
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Something strange happened on the way to the shipyard ...  ... no, it´s neither England 1940 HMS Wellesley against Luftwaffe nor Okinawa 1945 USS Bunker Hill and japanese kamikaze ... ... XXXDAn https://www.google.de/search?q=hms+well ... QINg&udm=2HMS Wellesley Wikipedia uk
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Something strange happened on the way to the shipyard ...
[img]http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=155932[/img]
... no, it´s neither England 1940 HMS Wellesley against Luftwaffe nor Okinawa 1945 USS Bunker Hill and japanese kamikaze ...
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XXXDAn
https://www.google.de/search?q=hms+wellesley&biw=2319&bih=1379&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiPhd6J09PJAhXKXRQKHcDMBdAQsAQINg&udm=2
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Wellesley_(1815)]HMS Wellesley Wikipedia uk[/url]
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:26 am |
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Great Progress dafi!  Great Progress dafi! :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:00 pm |
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Thank you Sirs! Somehow it was time to do something to this little USS chick again. The infamous gunnade in the bow was still missing.   Even if it has already been questioned, I decided in favour of the variant with the GRIII crest. Then I prepared the space on deck for it, fitted the lower deck knees and printed the nailed interior bulkward ...  ... and glued it in.  Then checked the size of the blocks. The 2.5 mm were too long after all.  So it became the 2 mm blocks  I now also have a technique that works quite well. You sharpen a toothpick well ...  ... and clamp it in a vice.  Then put a piece of paper over it to make it easier to see, and press the block onto the tip.  First check which side you need to start on so that the rolls are on the right side. Then apply 2 mm of superglue to the yarn and press it onto the correct side, ...  ... pull the ends forwards, tie a knot and secure with glue. Then knot the hook, secure it, cut it to length and the double block is finished.  For the single block, first knot in a hook, apply some superglue to the hook´s knot ...  ... and as with the other one ...  ... with a little superglue at the back and tighten the ends to the front. Then tie a knot, secure and cut to length. Now comes the most difficult part in my eyes: the correct run through the blocks so that nothing crosses over And that's it.  It also looks good on the 24-pounder  And then it was time for the trial fitting.       XXXDAn Thank you Sirs!
Somehow it was time to do something to this little USS chick again. The infamous gunnade in the bow was still missing.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-Guns-231228_7261.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-Guns-231228_7278.jpg[/img]
Even if it has already been questioned, I decided in favour of the variant with the GRIII crest.
Then I prepared the space on deck for it, fitted the lower deck knees and printed the nailed interior bulkward ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-inner-bulkwards-240104_7376.jpg[/img]
... and glued it in.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-inner-Bulkwards-240104_7354.jpg[/img]
Then checked the size of the blocks. The 2.5 mm were too long after all.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-Gunnade-231229_7293.jpg[/img]
So it became the 2 mm blocks :-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-240104_7414.jpg[/img]
I now also have a technique that works quite well. You sharpen a toothpick well ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7338.jpg[/img]
... and clamp it in a vice.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7312.jpg[/img]
Then put a piece of paper over it to make it easier to see, and press the block onto the tip.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7296.jpg[/img]
First check which side you need to start on so that the rolls are on the right side. Then apply 2 mm of superglue to the yarn and press it onto the correct side, ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7302.jpg[/img]
... pull the ends forwards, tie a knot and secure with glue. Then knot the hook, secure it, cut it to length and the double block is finished.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7306.jpg[/img]
For the single block, first knot in a hook, apply some superglue to the hook´s knot ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7323.jpg[/img]
... and as with the other one ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7326.jpg[/img]
... with a little superglue at the back and tighten the ends to the front.
Then tie a knot, secure and cut to length.
Now comes the most difficult part in my eyes: the correct run through the blocks so that nothing crosses over :-)
And that's it.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7332.jpg[/img]
It also looks good on the 24-pounder :-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-2mm-blocks-231229_7344.jpg[/img]
And then it was time for the trial fitting.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7425.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7427.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7432.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7442.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7449.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7451.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Constitution-guns-240106_7425.jpg[/img]
XXXDAn
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:17 am |
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Jawdropping dafi! Simply outstanding  Jawdropping dafi! Simply outstanding :woo_hoo:
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:45 pm |
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Truly impressive work.
Truly impressive work.
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:37 pm |
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Well, we are close to relegate our traditional tools to the back of the cupboard ...
Well, we are close to relegate our traditional tools to the back of the cupboard ...
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:16 am |
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Wow, that looks fantastic Daniel! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:35 am |
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And now on to new adventures. After I was once again amazed by the print results of the iron swivel gun, I wanted to try out something I had been thinking about for a while. One of the most time-consuming parts of the gun deck is the gun rigging, especially the side tackles. And you don't see much of it. Why not try something new there? A quick test shot ...  ... which showed that in principle it fits So I made it a bit more precise and quickly installed it.     Still a bit much spiral spring, but I think something is possible. As a next step I made the ropes of the rigging a bit thinner, 0.3 mm instead of 0.4 mm diameter. I also broke up the uniformity a bit and added minimal variances. Old on the right, new on the left.  Then I swung the brush, added shading to each colour as usual, and added some ink to the whole thing.  This was the time for a little setting test. The inner planks were marked with a pencil, the knees were glued on and I noticed that the holes for the bolts were still missing...  ... so I got out the shish kebab skewers with the incorporated drills and ...  ... drilled all the way through the ship Attached the side rigging to the gun and tested the position.  Fits, only the breech rope is missing.  The length is determined, all fittings are attached and ...  ... wrapped the rope around the grape as in the Constitution.  Since the breech rope is longer than the rest, this could be glued in place without any finger knotting ...  ... and then the gun is pushed towards the ship's side, the guide rails are guided into the glued holes and the gun is placed, a little glue with the toothpick under the wheels and done    XXXDAn And now on to new adventures. After I was once again amazed by the print results of the iron swivel gun, I wanted to try out something I had been thinking about for a while.
One of the most time-consuming parts of the gun deck is the gun rigging, especially the side tackles. And you don't see much of it. Why not try something new there? A quick test shot ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5113.jpg[/img]
... which showed that in principle it fits :-)
So I made it a bit more precise and quickly installed it.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5125.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5125.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5131.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5137.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230224_5143.jpg[/img]
Still a bit much spiral spring, but I think something is possible.
As a next step I made the ropes of the rigging a bit thinner, 0.3 mm instead of 0.4 mm diameter. I also broke up the uniformity a bit and added minimal variances. Old on the right, new on the left.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5187.jpg[/img]
Then I swung the brush, added shading to each colour as usual, and added some ink to the whole thing.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5198.jpg[/img]
This was the time for a little setting test. The inner planks were marked with a pencil, the knees were glued on and I noticed that the holes for the bolts were still missing...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5203.jpg[/img]
... so I got out the shish kebab skewers with the incorporated drills and ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5207.jpg[/img]
... drilled all the way through the ship :-)
Attached the side rigging to the gun and tested the position.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5215.jpg[/img]
Fits, only the breech rope is missing.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5219.jpg[/img]
The length is determined, all fittings are attached and ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5222.jpg[/img]
... wrapped the rope around the grape as in the Constitution.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5225.jpg[/img]
Since the breech rope is longer than the rest, this could be glued in place without any finger knotting ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5230.jpg[/img]
... and then the gun is pushed towards the ship's side, the guide rails are guided into the glued holes and the gun is placed, a little glue with the toothpick under the wheels and done :-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5243.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5249.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/USS-Constitution-230305_5251.jpg[/img]
XXXDAn
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A short excursus. The printer has once again spit out something, a small collaborative work from http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com A small iron swivel for older ships. Faramir had built the original file of the barrel, with me making a few more adations. Interesting are the dimensions of the trunnions with 0.3 mm and the matching eyebolt of the holder. This actually results in a fully movable gun even in this scale All modern drawings known to me show the powder chamber handle always pointing upwards. After the first test prints I saw a Life-Fire video and realised that the handle was turned to the side and so the fuse hole was on top, otherwise the fuse would not have been able to reach it. So I turned the handle and inserted the fuse hole. And there they were, the new prints. For painting, I put the barrels on a needle and noticed that the difference in diameter is not very big. With a very dry brush I brushed them with black paint, which doesn't put to much volume on and rubbed them carefully with graphite on a Q-tip.  I was most surprised that the firing hole is actually visible  And because it is so beautiful, different views.       There you go, the bad boys may finally come   XXXDAn A short excursus.
The printer has once again spit out something, a small collaborative work from http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/iron-swivel-230224_5083.jpg[/img]
A small iron swivel for older ships.
Faramir had built the original file of the barrel, with me making a few more adations.
Interesting are the dimensions of the trunnions with 0.3 mm and the matching eyebolt of the holder. This actually results in a fully movable gun even in this scale :-)
All modern drawings known to me show the powder chamber handle always pointing upwards. After the first test prints I saw a Life-Fire video and realised that the handle was turned to the side and so the fuse hole was on top, otherwise the fuse would not have been able to reach it. So I turned the handle and inserted the fuse hole.
And there they were, the new prints. For painting, I put the barrels on a needle and noticed that the difference in diameter is not very big. With a very dry brush I brushed them with black paint, which doesn't put to much volume on and rubbed them carefully with graphite on a Q-tip.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5146.jpg[/img]
I was most surprised that the firing hole is actually visible :-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5168.jpg[/img]
And because it is so beautiful, different views.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5148.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5151.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5153.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5155.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5160.jpg[/img]
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5162.jpg[/img]
There you go, the bad boys may finally come ;-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_3/Iron-Swivel-230226_5177.jpg[/img]
XXXDAn
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:32 am |
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And also contemporary pictures of repairs in the 1:1 originals look quaite the same Short interlude, "What if." I wonder what the Constitution would look like with a 12 cylinder sports engine?  A contemporaneous anchor nozzle from HMS Royal George at Thorsminde actually still survives. A lead pipe with the ends flanged around.  So new hawse inlays printed, with 3 mm inside, 4 outside and the curves at the flang.  Hawse holes drilled out to the nea diameter, inlets pushed in ...  ... and inside still another fake flange put on.  Now the whole area is also neatly wallpapered in one piece, the closed port is no longer visible, and the intersection of the plastic strips is in the middle of the port and will be covered by the gun XXXDAn And also contemporary pictures of repairs in the 1:1 originals look quaite the same :-)
Short interlude, "What if."
I wonder what the Constitution would look like with a 12 cylinder sports engine?
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5053.jpg[/img]
A contemporaneous anchor nozzle from HMS Royal George at Thorsminde actually still survives. A lead pipe with the ends flanged around.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/Thorsminde_5437.jpg[/img]
So new hawse inlays printed, with 3 mm inside, 4 outside and the curves at the flang.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5052.jpg[/img]
Hawse holes drilled out to the nea diameter, inlets pushed in ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5054.jpg[/img]
... and inside still another fake flange put on.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5061.jpg[/img]
Now the whole area is also neatly wallpapered in one piece, the closed port is no longer visible, and the intersection of the plastic strips is in the middle of the port and will be covered by the gun :-)
XXXDAn
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... at least on wooden ships and at this scale the traces of demolition can be removed relatively easily ... at least on wooden ships and at this scale the traces of demolition can be removed relatively easily :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:13 am |
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....>>> demolition.....<<<< ARGHHH!! .... the price of perfectionism & obsession! Good luck! JB  ....>>> demolition.....<<<<
ARGHHH!!
.... the price of perfectionism & obsession!
:thumbs_up_1:
Good luck!
JB :wave_1:
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:14 pm |
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After that, I took care of the anchor hawses. In the kit, these go 90° perpendicular to the ship's axis and out downward. Considering that the ship is driven away from the anchor by the wind on the tensioned anchor cable, there would have been a nice bend in the tensioned cable. That's why the anchor nozzle has to sit parallel to the ship's axis with minimal downward slope. A toilet paper roll happened to be the right height and served as a rest for the Dremel.  The anchor cable has about 2 mm in my scale, so printed short semi-finished tubes with 2.2 mm inside and 3 mm outside and glued them in and then still trimmed all after that.  Then the cable was threaded ...  ... and noticed, omg, there is missing the clearance. Often the anchor cables were still secured with various wrappings against chafing. In addition, I decided that the ship is represented before 1812, and there the bridle port, the foremost port was not cut in yet. This one was not equipped anyway and served to facilitate the anchor handling. So this port was closed and I noticed that this would probably result in a nasty patchwork on the internal planking. So came what had to come, a dafi did what a dafi has to do: Demolition!  With these cruel pictures I just want to leave you ... XXXDAn After that, I took care of the anchor hawses. In the kit, these go 90° perpendicular to the ship's axis and out downward.
Considering that the ship is driven away from the anchor by the wind on the tensioned anchor cable, there would have been a nice bend in the tensioned cable.
That's why the anchor nozzle has to sit parallel to the ship's axis with minimal downward slope. A toilet paper roll happened to be the right height and served as a rest for the Dremel.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230216_4990.jpg[/img]
The anchor cable has about 2 mm in my scale, so printed short semi-finished tubes with 2.2 mm inside and 3 mm outside and glued them in and then still trimmed all after that.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5033.jpg[/img]
Then the cable was threaded ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5043.jpg[/img]
... and noticed, omg, there is missing the clearance. Often the anchor cables were still secured with various wrappings against chafing.
In addition, I decided that the ship is represented before 1812, and there the bridle port, the foremost port was not cut in yet. This one was not equipped anyway and served to facilitate the anchor handling. So this port was closed and I noticed that this would probably result in a nasty patchwork on the internal planking.
So came what had to come, a dafi did what a dafi has to do: Demolition!
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5047.jpg[/img]
With these cruel pictures I just want to leave you ...
XXXDAn
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:30 pm |
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So far I had ever avoided, and the gun ports not yet clad inside. Was made up, so that one does not see the wooden slats and also file irregularities are concealed.  First all 4 sides laminated with 0.25 polysterol ...  ... then trimmed the inside with a scalpel ...  ... built a small sanding block with a handle ...  ... and neatened everything.  Fortunately only 30 times and not 100 like the Vic  Saved the scraps, you can still fill up any gaps with them.  XXXDAn So far I had ever avoided, and the gun ports not yet clad inside. Was made up, so that one does not see the wooden slats and also file irregularities are concealed.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230217_5014.jpg[/img]
First all 4 sides laminated with 0.25 polysterol ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230217_4992.jpg[/img]
... then trimmed the inside with a scalpel ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230218_5021.jpg[/img]
... built a small sanding block with a handle ...
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230218_5023.jpg[/img]
... and neatened everything.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230219_5035.jpg[/img]
Fortunately only 30 times and not 100 like the Vic :-)
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230218_5020.jpg[/img]
Saved the scraps, you can still fill up any gaps with them.
[img]https://mediaharmonists.de/bilder/uss_constitution_2/USS-Constitution-230217_5018.jpg[/img]
XXXDAn
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:39 am |
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I think Daniel should pick your painting technique and apply it to this nice panelling - not that easy for something that was presumably painted white all-over.
I think Daniel should pick your painting technique and apply it to this nice panelling - not that easy for something that was presumably painted white all-over.
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:43 am |
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Quite a puzzle Daniel! Just like the real thing...  Beautiful work! Quite a puzzle Daniel! Just like the real thing... :big_grin:
Beautiful work! :thumbs_up_1:
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:28 am |
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