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Ah definitely don't abandon ship. No need for that. No Italian Frogmen have been sighted just yet.

Who knows? When the order to repaint into the light grey scheme came perhaps they repainted the decks first? So I would imagine green with dark grey decks would be at least plausible? Albeit short lived!

[b][i]>>>Gentlemen, you are right, I managed to screw this up quite frankly.[/i][/b]


cripes!! --its not thaaaaat seriously bad; !! keep going!!

[b][i]>>>Since I am starting to lose interest in the ship,..... [/i][/b]

whaaaaat-- you are sooo far along it would be a terrible shame to allow yourself to be discouraged

[b][i]>>> so I'll fix the errors someday, but not now.... [/i][/b]

I would not do [b][u]anything!-[/u][/b]-its unalterable without risk of damage/ foul-ip

[i][b][size=150]BUT--I what I would do ...[/size][/b][/i]===> as the rescue mission

is.....

Set the ship into a deep ( for the hull) water base-- like your Mauritania

- that will distract the viewer from all that light green (!)
and[u] you[/u] from any any perceived waterline issues ...

Don't give up -- please -- you are so far along !! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I know [i]Britannic[/i] is calling... but,,,,, :big_grin: :big_grin:

Best wishes

Jim Baumann

Gentlemen, you are right, I managed to screw this up quite frankly.
What annoys me is that I also suspected that everything should be left this olive green, I wanted to ask about it in here, but then a couple of people's models and the GPM 1/400 paper model printout also brought this up, so it didn't seem impossible. Of course, there is no photo evidence, I have looked through all my books and saved pictures several times but I couldn't find anything that would support me. Since I am starting to lose interest in the ship, and I don't feel like masking, cutting, etc. again so I'll fix the errors someday, but not now.... I will be more careful next time.

late to the party alas

for my KuK ships I used Humbrol 31....

''' The ship is painted all over in 'Montecucollin' green, the nearest match as researched by Falk Pletcher in PSM mag 1997/2 being Humbrol 31, with the lino decks getting the WEM colourcoats Corticene treatment washed down somewhat.
The pink boot top is as per the original, the lurid hue being a result of the saltwater reacting with the boot top paint.

This was changed (!) at the outbreak of WW1 to dark grey whilst the remainder of the vessel was then re-painted in a light blue-grey. '''


1/700 Erzherzog Ferdinand Max ( 1994 (!!) WSW kit )


[img]http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/kuk/erzherog-700-jb/Photo37_34.jpg[/img]

The hull looks great. Such an unusual colour scheme.

I think for the Olive Green colour scheme the steel decks and main gun turret roofs were also Olive Green. And not dark grey.

They only became dark grey once the new overall light grey paint scheme was applied post-1913.

Thanks for the help! :smallsmile:

In the end, I decided on Tamiya paint, the base colors are there. I tried to play with the effects a bit, so I lightened the base color with a little white. I think it looks pretty good. Then the weathering will also work on it (the photo is a bit deceiving, but unfortunately I can't take a better one with my phone).

What caused the biggest problem was that after I was done, a friend of mine pointed out to me that the waterline was a little higher than it should be, and he sent me a photo to prove it. I told him that I had sized the position of the line based on the drawings, and I also have a photo that shows it will be fine this way....

The photos clearly show that the line is sometimes closer and sometimes further from the attachment points of the torpedo protection net support rods... I even thought that maybe the pink waterline doesn't show up well in black and white photos and that's what's causing it, but who knows.
This thing has me a little confused, but it seems that everyone is right, depending on when the photo was taken... or not, "[i]the truth is out there[/i]"...

*with all the caveats of the photo in the museum being taken under artificial light etc etc.

I have seen it "in person" and the photo is a decent representation of what it looks like standing in front of it.

Yeah Humbrol 31 is called Slate Grey but really has a distinct green look:

[url]https://agtom.eu/en/humbrol-enamel-paints/341787-farba-humbrol-enamel-31-slate-grey-matt-50723652.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqEtjzv4NbeGnGDiKXfsqxyvP1lpJdnzGN1NqA4Nmq5oywrm9vo[/url]

Here is he model of Viribus Unitis in the Museum of Military History in Vienna:

[url]https://www.shipsnostalgia.com/media/unidentified-model-sms-viribus-unitis.405007/[/url]

One would imagine the shade of green used on that is at least "ballpark" compared to the actual colour. Pretty sure it is described as an "Olive Green".

Hi Szabi,

I would use a light tone:

[url]http://www.josephlavender.com/sms-viribus-unitis[/url]

Tamiya XF-89 seems good:

[url]http://www.super-hobby.hu/products/XF-89-Dark-Green-2-Matt.html[/url]

Fellow modellers!

I need help :help_1: , according to the evidence, I have finally started painting the ship :cool_1:
The problem is this: I am depicting the ship in its 1912 state, when all units in the fleet still wore green.
[b]Which color is closest to the one used in the fleet[/b]:

- Tamiya XF-89 dark green,
- Tamiya XF-67 NATO green (I think it is too light),
- Mr Hobby H-64 dark green?
I also have Tamiya XF-11 and Mr Hobby H-36 in stock, but I think they are absolutely far from good.

I read that the closest would be Humbrol 31, according to a 1997 article, but Google threw up the name "Slate grey matt", and the color is more gray than green in the pics, plus I would rather use Tamiya or Mr Hobby paint.
Can anyone help? It could be a different paint, I'll buy it if needed :P

Gentlemen, thank you! :big_grin:


Unfortunately, I haven't been able to work on the ship in the last few months, I had other things to do instead, like a garden, painting the fence, etc.
In the last few days, I've almost finished the masts. I mostly used Eduard etching and Model Master parts for this. The searchlight platform of the rear mast has been slightly modified based on the photos, because the supports are not good either in the 3D model or in the blueprints according to the photos.

The main turrets were also completely finished earlier. In principle, they are ready for painting.

Of course, after I finished with the masts, I pushed the ship, which was on the shelf, and successfully knocked down the funnels... :doh_1: Both were damaged, the steam pipes broke off, and the handrails were also damaged :mad_1: . I fixed it, but obviously it didn't turn out the same as it was...

Excellent work. The PE work is very sharp, and the details on the guns really pop!

Lovely details!
She is going to be a beauty!

Nice work! It's going to be great.

Good evening!

Lately the work has slowed down because spring is coming,and I'm gardening (another big hobby of mine) + I've been building other models. Now I've been messing around with the boats a bit.
Several of the larger ones had to be rebuilt, extra parts had to be built in. Unfortunately, both the model and the Eduard photoetch are inaccurate in many places, but there are some useful parts if you modify them. I replaced the missing details with scrap materials. They would definitely be nicer if 3D printed, but I'll stick to my own level XD

Indeed you are right !

--photos always tell the truth :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

cheers
JB

Jim, I don't know the reason for this rotation, but the drawing is correct according to the pictures.

all very good-

-but Interesting that the drawing shows the shoulder brace
( Schulter stuetze_ ) to be Horizontal...?

on 3" QF and 4.7" QF the should brace is vertical

Cheers
JB

Great superdetailing work, very convincing look:cool_1:

Greetings! :wave_1:

In the last few days I have been busy replicating the ship's 7 cm guns. I replaced the barrel with a Master MOdel piece, and the copper elements are from the Eduard set. Unfortunately, this does not make the appearance of the guns much better. Of the 3 wheels that help adjust the gun, only 2 pieces were found, but none of them had normal axles. I replaced these with wire, from 1.5-3 mm pieces. To make it a little easier, I did not cut the wheel from the frame, first I glued the axles to them, then carefully cut them from their places and they were mounted on the gun.

I am investigating the possibility of further improvement, because it is not perfect yet, but my eyes are already leaking. Time is passing me by, slowly at the age of 36 I will need a magnifying glass for the pieces like that at the end... :dead: