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hypno7 wrote: I don't know if my explanation is clear...
Roger, copy. Thanks for the thorough reply. Truth is, I hadn't discovered gel-type CA when I last tried to secure the wings onto tiny aircraft! Incidentally, I too prefer 700-scale ships on reg bottoms. See my link for some, including a WIP USS Princeton (CVL-23) on its boxy, bulky kit bottom.
[quote="hypno7"] I don't know if my explanation is clear...
[/quote]Roger, copy. Thanks for the thorough reply. Truth is, I hadn't discovered gel-type CA when I last tried to secure the wings onto tiny aircraft!
Incidentally, I too prefer 700-scale ships on reg bottoms. See my link for some, including a WIP [url=https://picasaweb.google.com/103183088646775084118/CVL23Project]USS Princeton (CVL-23)[/url] on its boxy, bulky kit bottom.
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:33 am |
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Hello Andrew, thanks for your kind comments! Regarding the airwing, it is somewhat of a "wasteful" method. What I do is use two planes to produce one. One plane where I clip the whole wing and one where I just clip part of the wing. That way I have a set of complete wings and a fuselage with half wings, both the set of wings and fuselage with half the wings extend beyond the point of the folding wing joint. Then with a set of files, I file the folding wing joint into shape. It is a shame to throw away all those fuselages, but they are relatively cheap. I don't know if my explanation is clear... To clip the wings I use these nippers (very nice price/quality value in my opinion) http://www.wiha.com/en-int/produkte/pliers/oblique-cutting-nippers-electronic.htmlbut I think normal plastic model clippers will do the same job. To glue them, I use gel CA in very small amounts. With this glue you have enough time to reposition. The one from Pattex is even a little bit flexible when cured. The F4F's are somewhat straightforwad because there is a notch and its easy to position. The TBD's are a bit more tricky, but its just about taking your time. I didn't use a rig, and when you look closely, you see there are a lot of imperfections and unequal planes.
Hello Andrew,
thanks for your kind comments!
Regarding the airwing, it is somewhat of a "wasteful" method. What I do is use two planes to produce one. One plane where I clip the whole wing and one where I just clip part of the wing. That way I have a set of complete wings and a fuselage with half wings, both the set of wings and fuselage with half the wings extend beyond the point of the folding wing joint. Then with a set of files, I file the folding wing joint into shape. It is a shame to throw away all those fuselages, but they are relatively cheap. I don't know if my explanation is clear...
To clip the wings I use these nippers (very nice price/quality value in my opinion)
[url]http://www.wiha.com/en-int/produkte/pliers/oblique-cutting-nippers-electronic.html[/url]
but I think normal plastic model clippers will do the same job.
To glue them, I use gel CA in very small amounts. With this glue you have enough time to reposition. The one from Pattex is even a little bit flexible when cured. The F4F's are somewhat straightforwad because there is a notch and its easy to position. The TBD's are a bit more tricky, but its just about taking your time. I didn't use a rig, and when you look closely, you see there are a lot of imperfections and unequal planes.
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:05 am |
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hypno7 wrote: Some progress done on the airplanes, The rudder decals where printed on white decal paper and sealed with a clear varnish.
10 TBD's 12 SBD's 11 F4F-4's (one flew away into oblivion) . . .
Thanks for watching, comments and criticisms welcomed! Beautiful work! With regard to the air wing, how did you manage to so cleanly cut the brittle plastic on the clear Trumpeter planes? Did you use a saw, clippers, a sharp blade, ninja moves, etc? Also, how did you re-attach the wings in the folded position? Did you use a jig of some sort? I have the hardest time getting them uniform, let alone getting them to stay put when I glue them! Thanks,
[quote="hypno7"]Some progress done on the airplanes, The rudder decals where printed on white decal paper and sealed with a clear varnish.
10 TBD's 12 SBD's 11 F4F-4's (one flew away into oblivion) . . .
Thanks for watching, comments and criticisms welcomed![/quote] Beautiful work!
With regard to the air wing, how did you manage to so cleanly cut the brittle plastic on the clear Trumpeter planes? Did you use a saw, clippers, a sharp blade, ninja moves, etc?
Also, how did you re-attach the wings in the folded position? Did you use a jig of some sort? I have the hardest time getting them uniform, let alone getting them to stay put when I glue them!
Thanks,
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:29 am |
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Incredible work. The camo scheme looks fantastic.
Incredible work. The camo scheme looks fantastic.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:46 pm |
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Thank you Steve! Pictures of the finished model can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=156938
Thank you Steve! Pictures of the finished model can be found here: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=156938
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:59 am |
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Brilliant! I missed this thread earlier. Glad to have found it.
Brilliant! I missed this thread earlier. Glad to have found it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:47 pm |
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I know the feeling Hypno7!!! I could have done the same scene with Hornet (or Yorktown) instead of Lexington, and I sometimes wish I did (if only for that camo!). So if I ever get to build Hornet, your model is on my list too! But before you start on a Coral Sea Lexington, make sure to send me a pm, as I can by now point out a number of corrections you can do to the Trumpeter kit that I haven't seen on any model yet, and that I became aware of too late to implement them on my own build. Hence my comment about doing as much research as possible before starting... Not that you have to do these corrections of course, just in case you would like to... Cheers, Marijn
I know the feeling Hypno7!!! :)
I could have done the same scene with Hornet (or Yorktown) instead of Lexington, and I sometimes wish I did (if only for that camo!). So if I ever get to build Hornet, your model is on my list too!
But before you start on a Coral Sea Lexington, make sure to send me a pm, as I can by now point out a number of corrections you can do to the Trumpeter kit that I haven't seen on any model yet, and that I became aware of too late to implement them on my own build. Hence my comment about doing as much research as possible before starting... Not that you have to do these corrections of course, just in case you would like to... :)
Cheers,
Marijn
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:45 am |
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Hi Marijn,
Oh yeah, the best part (and sometimes frustrating part) is researching your new project! I don't know how much time I stared at the Yorktown plans for this build, and trying to make out details of small, fuzzy, digitized, 70+ year old photographs. But getting to know the ship, history, details, and the shapes of it is the interesting part of the build for me.
What feels a bit sad is that the project is coming close to an end. I used to purposefully leave something unfinished on my airplane models, just to have it sit there on my desk so I could "work on it".
I will one day build a Lexington class, and the build you are sharing here will certainly be part of my reference. I would like to make at least one of each USN fleet carrier class. (Yorktown class I think will have to be all three, but that is in the very very long term)
Hi Marijn,
Oh yeah, the best part (and sometimes frustrating part) is researching your new project! I don't know how much time I stared at the Yorktown plans for this build, and trying to make out details of small, fuzzy, digitized, 70+ year old photographs. But getting to know the ship, history, details, and the shapes of it is the interesting part of the build for me.
What feels a bit sad is that the project is coming close to an end. I used to purposefully leave something unfinished on my airplane models, just to have it sit there on my desk so I could "work on it".
I will one day build a Lexington class, and the build you are sharing here will certainly be part of my reference. I would like to make at least one of each USN fleet carrier class. (Yorktown class I think will have to be all three, but that is in the very very long term)
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:23 am |
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That's not sad at all! I think the best is to research the next build while building the current one. The more research is done before starting a build, the less likely one is to run into problems halfway (as I found out again during my current project...) Only problem: it is hard to choose one next build, so research can be less than efficient by being devided over many potential future projects! Cheers, Marijn
That's not sad at all! I think the best is to research the next build while building the current one. The more research is done before starting a build, the less likely one is to run into problems halfway (as I found out again during my current project...) :) Only problem: it is hard to choose one next build, so research can be less than efficient by being devided over many potential future projects! :)
Cheers,
Marijn
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:02 am |
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-Chris, Marijn, Thank you! I appreciate it a lot.
-GazzaS, Thanks! I can only recommend the brass barrels (Sea Master), they are relatively cheap and do add a lot to the model. Not only it looks better, but can handle a bit more abuse while handling, compared to their plastic counterparts. On the other hand, there are some manufacturers that have very nice plastic parts, so in some cases I think it is not needed.
The model will be finished soon (or when I really get tired of adding small details). It is somewhat sad, but I am already planning and researching the next build.
-Chris, Marijn, Thank you! I appreciate it a lot.
-GazzaS, Thanks! I can only recommend the brass barrels (Sea Master), they are relatively cheap and do add a lot to the model. Not only it looks better, but can handle a bit more abuse while handling, compared to their plastic counterparts. On the other hand, there are some manufacturers that have very nice plastic parts, so in some cases I think it is not needed.
The model will be finished soon (or when I really get tired of adding small details). It is somewhat sad, but I am already planning and researching the next build.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:33 am |
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Great model! The rigging looks very fine and precise, and the detail on the bombers is great. I would say it was worth the extra effort!
Cheers,
Marijn
Great model! The rigging looks very fine and precise, and the detail on the bombers is great. I would say it was worth the extra effort!
Cheers,
Marijn
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:30 am |
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Awesome work! Guns like yours make me think that kit barrels will never again suffice.
Awesome work! Guns like yours make me think that kit barrels will never again suffice.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:08 am |
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hypno7 wrote: Thank you Paul! I wouldn't say that about my build... but I really appreciate it. I am just using the methods and techniques you very generously shared. Don't sell yourself short. This is beautiful work.
[quote="hypno7"]Thank you Paul! I wouldn't say that about my build... but I really appreciate it.
I am just using the methods and techniques you very generously shared. :wave_1:[/quote]
Don't sell yourself short. This is beautiful work.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:20 pm |
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Thank you Paul! I wouldn't say that about my build... but I really appreciate it. I am just using the methods and techniques you very generously shared.
Thank you Paul! I wouldn't say that about my build... but I really appreciate it.
I am just using the methods and techniques you very generously shared. :wave_1:
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:04 pm |
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You've set a new standard, beautiful model!
Paul
You've set a new standard, beautiful model!
Paul
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:06 pm |
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Hi everyone, I mounted the model to its base and started adding small details and fixed the island in place. The AA and other details were added, but I am still half way there I think. Rigging is also not complete. Attachment:
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I know the pictures could be better, and that is something I plan to address soon. Comments and/or criticisms are very welcomed!
Hi everyone,
I mounted the model to its base and started adding small details and fixed the island in place. The AA and other details were added, but I am still half way there I think. Rigging is also not complete.
[attachment=6]20140617_1.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=2]20140617_5.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=5]20140617_2.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=4]20140617_3.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=3]20140617_4.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=1]20140617_6.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=0]20140617_7.jpg[/attachment]
I know the pictures could be better, and that is something I plan to address soon.
Comments and/or criticisms are very welcomed!
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:58 am |
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Thank you Gabriel! I use your CV-8 build as reference. I finally had some time and willpower to work on the B-25's. The cockpits, noses and gun turrets were first masked off with a liquid masking fluid, then green zinc chomate was airbrushed on. After letting it dry for a couple of days, the medium gray was sprayed and then the olive drab on top. More masking for several black stripes. I also printed decals for the yellow serial numbers (yellow numbers over olive drab background printed in white decal paper, yellow on transparent rendered brownish numbers over the model) and the red propeller guard stripes. The roundels are from the kit. The frames over the clear parts were made with painted decal film, enamel over transparent decal film. Then cut into very fine strips and applied. Propellers and landing gear is PE from WEM. The serial numbers can be read with an optivisor (at least by me). The stripes can also be seen this way. I sometimes think that maybe the extra work was not worth it, but I am satisfied with it. Attachment:
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Thank you Gabriel! I use your CV-8 build as reference.
I finally had some time and willpower to work on the B-25's. The cockpits, noses and gun turrets were first masked off with a liquid masking fluid, then green zinc chomate was airbrushed on. After letting it dry for a couple of days, the medium gray was sprayed and then the olive drab on top. More masking for several black stripes.
I also printed decals for the yellow serial numbers (yellow numbers over olive drab background printed in white decal paper, yellow on transparent rendered brownish numbers over the model) and the red propeller guard stripes. The roundels are from the kit.
The frames over the clear parts were made with painted decal film, enamel over transparent decal film. Then cut into very fine strips and applied. Propellers and landing gear is PE from WEM.
The serial numbers can be read with an optivisor (at least by me). The stripes can also be seen this way. I sometimes think that maybe the extra work was not worth it, but I am satisfied with it.
[attachment=1]b-25b_6.jpg[/attachment] [attachment=0]b-25b.jpg[/attachment] As always, comments and criticisms welcomed!
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:28 am |
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I am enjoying how this is turning out. Much cleaner than mine:)
I am enjoying how this is turning out. Much cleaner than mine:)
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 8:07 pm |
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Thanks KevinH! Just a small update. I have been adding details to the flight deck. The arresting gear is done with small discs and caenis thread. The barriers also, but with small triangles. As reference I used photographs of the time. Attachment:
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Thanks for watching, comments and/or criticisms welcomed!
Thanks KevinH!
Just a small update. I have been adding details to the flight deck. The arresting gear is done with small discs and caenis thread. The barriers also, but with small triangles. As reference I used photographs of the time.
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Thanks for watching, comments and/or criticisms welcomed!
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:48 pm |
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I can't believe it's 1/700... Fantastic job
I can't believe it's 1/700... Fantastic job :cool_2:
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:42 pm |
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