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I like your concept and I agree that the railgun turrets are kinda boring, maybe add some access hatches for maintenance purposes, and maybe a small GPS/Satcom bubble antennas, something to catch the eye, remember this is your concept and anything goes.
I like your concept and I agree that the railgun turrets are kinda boring, maybe add some access hatches for maintenance purposes, and maybe a small GPS/Satcom bubble antennas, something to catch the eye, remember this is your concept and anything goes.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:41 pm |
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Maybe some PE hatches on the side or back? Dunno if the turrets are envisioned to be as heavily armoured as the originals though.
Maybe some PE hatches on the side or back? Dunno if the turrets are envisioned to be as heavily armoured as the originals though.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:04 pm |
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I would just do a bit of shading and dry brushing if details are lacking, maybe imitate some plating on the turrets. In other words if you lack detail, you can make a lot of it up by using paint and textures and weathering. just a thought!
I would just do a bit of shading and dry brushing if details are lacking, maybe imitate some plating on the turrets. In other words if you lack detail, you can make a lot of it up by using paint and textures and weathering. just a thought!
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:55 pm |
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Something I forgot to ask: I'm still debating if I want to add any small details to the railgun turrets. They just look so plain and boring sometimes. I don't know yet. Should I add any small details to them or not? If so, then what?
I also have a 4th railgun turret as a spare. I haven't built or painted it yet. But if I do, I can add barrels that are in an elevated position to it.
This way, I can change out one of the regular railgun turrets and put in a turret that looks like it is firing if I want to.
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Something I forgot to ask: I'm still debating if I want to add any small details to the railgun turrets. They just look so plain and boring sometimes. I don't know yet. Should I add any small details to them or not? If so, then what?
I also have a 4th railgun turret as a spare. I haven't built or painted it yet. But if I do, I can add barrels that are in an elevated position to it.
This way, I can change out one of the regular railgun turrets and put in a turret that looks like it is firing if I want to.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:45 pm |
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:15 pm |
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:14 pm |
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I suppose a railgun has a trajectory almost as straight as a laserbeam, would a traditional rangefinder have a point then? And I also think that a ship with this kind of armament on it would likewise have the bridge adapted to the new look, it would look more like a Zumwalt kind of thing then. But they sure look the part.
I suppose a railgun has a trajectory almost as straight as a laserbeam, would a traditional rangefinder have a point then? And I also think that a ship with this kind of armament on it would likewise have the bridge adapted to the new look, it would look more like a Zumwalt kind of thing then. But they sure look the part.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:08 pm |
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:43 pm |
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:41 pm |
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This post, and the next two posts, show the completed 3D printed railgun turrets that another modeler made for me. They'll require a lot of cleanup in the next several days and weeks before they get added to the model. They won't be permanently glued on, but will be removable in case I want to switch them out and put in the regular 16" turrets at any time for display. They still look a little big, but not by much. I asked the other modeler who made them to get as close as he could to the size of a regular 16" gun turret. I think he did pretty good. I'm undecided if I want to add any extra "greeblies" on the 3D printed turrets to give them a bit more detail. I mean, as you can see for example, they don't have the rangefinder hoods that regular 16" turrets have. Or maybe I'll have to add some photoetch ladders along the sides so crew can get on top of the turrets for maintenance or other purposes?      This post, and the next two posts, show the completed 3D printed railgun turrets that another modeler made for me. They'll require a lot of cleanup in the next several days and weeks before they get added to the model. They won't be permanently glued on, but will be removable in case I want to switch them out and put in the regular 16" turrets at any time for display.
They still look a little big, but not by much. I asked the other modeler who made them to get as close as he could to the size of a regular 16" gun turret.
I think he did pretty good.
I'm undecided if I want to add any extra "greeblies" on the 3D printed turrets to give them a bit more detail. I mean, as you can see for example, they don't have the rangefinder hoods that regular 16" turrets have. Or maybe I'll have to add some photoetch ladders along the sides so crew can get on top of the turrets for maintenance or other purposes?
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:38 pm |
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Now we're finally getting somewhere!  Recent pics the modeler sent me a few weeks ago after more design changes. The turret housing is about 98-99% done. The modeler will be starting on the barrels soon. But I did tell him to make the barrels solid and not have "holes" in them.     Now we're finally getting somewhere! :) Recent pics the modeler sent me a few weeks ago after more design changes.
The turret housing is about 98-99% done. The modeler will be starting on the barrels soon.
But I did tell him to make the barrels solid and not have "holes" in them.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:19 pm |
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This is a next batch of pics the modeler sent me months ago after we had talked things over and tweaked the design somewhat.
Unfortuneately, the back of the turret is still too big and the width of the turret needs to be sized down a bit.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:16 pm |
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About those railgun turrets I mentioned in an earlier post.........
I still have another modeler working on 3D printing them. He's about 98-99% done with the turret housing. He's also starting work on the railgun barrels. Last I heard from him which was last month, he said he could have everything finished next month or in August. Here's hoping. ;)
These are pics of the turrets he started making about a year or so ago. Very early provisional design.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:12 pm |
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I guess I'm going to say this is done.........provisionally.
I met another modeler at my local model club a few months ago who said he could help to 3D print the following railgun turret for me. But he won't be finished making any till January or February next year. :(
So until then, I made some regular 16" gun turrets and stuck them on my model. The 16"/50 main gun turrets were never supposed to be on this model. I am still hoping for the railgun turrets to hopefully get made and be added instead. But I built and added the regular 16" gun turrets because I'm too eager to see this model done and show it off to people. The 16"/50 turrets aren't glued in. They are removable and will be replaced when I do eventually get those railgun turrets made. Since I couldn't afford to get metal gun barrels, I drilled out the ends of the plastic barrels a tiny bit to give the illusion of hollowed out gun barrels. I did eventually take my model to a local contest on December 11th. It at least got a 3rd Place Plaque in the "1/350 & Larger Ships" category.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:49 pm |
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I regret to inform everybody that this project is now officially.......SUNK.  All I had left to do was to add 3 main gun turrets. But due to various life issues that have suddenly crept up, that will not happen. Not for the remainder of this year and I'm not sure for how long next year. So, the model is getting packed up never to see the light of day again unless some miracle happens. Sorry, folks. I tried, but just couldn't make it work. I regret to inform everybody that this project is now officially.......SUNK. :(
All I had left to do was to add 3 main gun turrets. But due to various life issues that have suddenly crept up, that will not happen. Not for the remainder of this year and I'm not sure for how long next year. So, the model is getting packed up never to see the light of day again unless some miracle happens.
Sorry, folks. I tried, but just couldn't make it work.
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:52 am |
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Not much new, folks. This project is at a standstill. D.I.T.W. (Dead In The Water) I met a guy at a model contest about 2 weeks ago who said he could possibly 3D print either of the first two turret options below. So I emailed him to discuss things further. It's now 2 weeks later and I have not heard back from him. So I guess he's out as an option. As for the third option below which is the Kotobukiya turret cannons, I am trying to have hope that my local model store might be getting those in, but my supply of hope is wearing quite thin right now. (Probably stuck on a ship at the Port of L.A.) So it looks like I'll have to go with one of the four options you see from Shapeways. I'm not sure which yet. Otherwise in other news, I ordered more photoetch fire hoses from Gold Medal Models as I still need to put more on my model.    Single gun turret https://www.shapeways.com/product/9MUCR ... 2&li=shops Mk.IV destroyer turrets https://www.shapeways.com/product/GETEC ... arketplace Large turrets https://www.shapeways.com/product/58WLL ... arketplace Dropship turrets https://www.shapeways.com/product/44AEE ... arketplace Not much new, folks. This project is at a standstill. :( D.I.T.W. (Dead In The Water)
I met a guy at a model contest about 2 weeks ago who said he could possibly 3D print either of the first two turret options below.
So I emailed him to discuss things further. It's now 2 weeks later and I have not heard back from him. So I guess he's out as an option.
As for the third option below which is the Kotobukiya turret cannons, I am trying to have hope that my local model store might be getting those in, but my supply of hope is wearing quite thin right now. :( (Probably stuck on a ship at the Port of L.A.)
So it looks like I'll have to go with one of the four options you see from Shapeways. I'm not sure which yet.
Otherwise in other news, I ordered more photoetch fire hoses from Gold Medal Models as I still need to put more on my model.
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Single gun turret
https://www.shapeways.com/product/9MUCRX7XH/artillery-turrets-3?optionId=69979892&li=shops
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Mk.IV destroyer turrets
https://www.shapeways.com/product/GETEC5NSA/285-mk-iv-destroyer-turrets?optionId=56351575&li=marketplace
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https://www.shapeways.com/product/58WLLG3SM/1-270-large-turrets-4?optionId=63636639&li=marketplace
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https://www.shapeways.com/product/44AEE2NS8/angular-dropship-turrets-3?optionId=69979895&li=marketplace
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:33 pm |
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EJM wrote: Chippmunk wrote: What a interesting build =) About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (: The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”. What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation? That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation. Great build and keep the steam up  When I first started this project long ago, I thought of many different options for keeping or not keeping the main gun turrets: a) Keep all 3 main gun turrets. b) Keep #'s 1 and 3 main gun turrets and replace #2 with VLS. c) Remove all 3 main gun turrets and replace with VLS. d) Keep #'s 1 and 2 main gun turrets and replace #3 with VLS or an aft flight deck and hangar. e) Replace 16"/50 turrets with single barrel electromagnetic railgun turrets. ..........etc., etc., etc. I still haven't fully decided what I am going to do.  I DO know that I want to have three main gun turrets. But it's the style I am unsure about. One barrel, two barrels, or three? I don't want to say the new turrets would be laser or plasma cannon based. That is just too futuristic. I want to stay a little bit "down to earth", know what I mean? Think I know what you mean. On one hand, I believe that one-barrel next generation whatever will suffice when looking at the brute force of a railgun for example. Having a couple of double barrel railguns within the next decade on a ship (if not going super CV size) seems a bit over the top. On the other hand, since this is a great “what if” build why not go with what looks good for you and ignore the “accurate” part? (= Don’t let the final details ruin this beautiful build :> [quote="EJM"][quote="Chippmunk"]What a interesting build =)
About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (:
The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”.
What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation?
That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation.
Great build and keep the steam up :D[/quote]
When I first started this project long ago, I thought of many different options for keeping or not keeping the main gun turrets:
a) Keep all 3 main gun turrets.
b) Keep #'s 1 and 3 main gun turrets and replace #2 with VLS.
c) Remove all 3 main gun turrets and replace with VLS.
d) Keep #'s 1 and 2 main gun turrets and replace #3 with VLS or an aft flight deck and hangar.
e) Replace 16"/50 turrets with single barrel electromagnetic railgun turrets.
..........etc., etc., etc.
I still haven't fully decided what I am going to do. :huh:
I DO know that I want to have three main gun turrets. But it's the style I am unsure about. One barrel, two barrels, or three?
I don't want to say the new turrets would be laser or plasma cannon based. That is just too futuristic.
I want to stay a little bit "down to earth", know what I mean?[/quote]
Think I know what you mean.
On one hand, I believe that one-barrel next generation whatever will suffice when looking at the brute force of a railgun for example. Having a couple of double barrel railguns within the next decade on a ship (if not going super CV size) seems a bit over the top.
On the other hand, since this is a great “what if” build why not go with what looks good for you and ignore the “accurate” part? (=
Don’t let the final details ruin this beautiful build :>
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Chippmunk wrote: What a interesting build =) About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (: The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”. What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation? That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation. Great build and keep the steam up When I first started this project long ago, I thought of many different options for keeping or not keeping the main gun turrets: a) Keep all 3 main gun turrets. b) Keep #'s 1 and 3 main gun turrets and replace #2 with VLS. c) Remove all 3 main gun turrets and replace with VLS. d) Keep #'s 1 and 2 main gun turrets and replace #3 with VLS or an aft flight deck and hangar. e) Replace 16"/50 turrets with single barrel electromagnetic railgun turrets. ..........etc., etc., etc. I still haven't fully decided what I am going to do. I DO know that I want to have three main gun turrets. But it's the style I am unsure about. One barrel, two barrels, or three? I don't want to say the new turrets would be laser or plasma cannon based. That is just too futuristic. I want to stay a little bit "down to earth", know what I mean? [quote="Chippmunk"]What a interesting build =)
About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (:
The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”.
What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation?
That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation.
Great build and keep the steam up :D[/quote]
When I first started this project long ago, I thought of many different options for keeping or not keeping the main gun turrets:
a) Keep all 3 main gun turrets.
b) Keep #'s 1 and 3 main gun turrets and replace #2 with VLS.
c) Remove all 3 main gun turrets and replace with VLS.
d) Keep #'s 1 and 2 main gun turrets and replace #3 with VLS or an aft flight deck and hangar.
e) Replace 16"/50 turrets with single barrel electromagnetic railgun turrets.
..........etc., etc., etc.
I still haven't fully decided what I am going to do. :huh:
I DO know that I want to have three main gun turrets. But it's the style I am unsure about. One barrel, two barrels, or three?
I don't want to say the new turrets would be laser or plasma cannon based. That is just too futuristic.
I want to stay a little bit "down to earth", know what I mean?
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What a interesting build =)
I read the first two post then I went for some hot chocolate and I just now finished reading :D
What I find most amusing whit these “what if” is that nothing is wrong, nor right for that matter, just pure creativity.
About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (:
The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”.
What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation?
That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation.
Great build and keep the steam up :D
What a interesting build =)
I read the first two post then I went for some hot chocolate and I just now finished reading :D
What I find most amusing whit these “what if” is that nothing is wrong, nor right for that matter, just pure creativity.
About the main gun turrets, I have a thought. Bear with me (:
The launch of the General Ford has had some discussions whether the navy perhaps took a bit too many innovative steps and put all eggs in one basket, like the steam- or magnetic launch system. Anyway; a next generation battleship is supposed to be functional as well and having all the main guns being railguns, plasma, laser or whatever could be devesting if someone “pulled the plug”.
What if turret #1 and #3 stayed true to the well tested ballistic shells and turret #2 went next generation?
That way the navy would have that “next generation hybrid” ship that still would be able to punch back regardless of possible situation.
Great build and keep the steam up :D
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I’ve been enjoying following this build. I think it’s great how much thought you put in to what this ship might look like.
I’ve been enjoying following this build. I think it’s great how much thought you put in to what this ship might look like.
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