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by **dafi** » Fri Feb 13, 2026 5:19 am

Beaten into submission, yes, that is the right expression!

Yes THAT was fun, pur brutality, blood and gore!

But for you and your usual scales, that would be a 0,3 mm screw thread

I doubt that it would be as impressive

XXXDAn

by **JIM BAUMANN** » Thu Feb 12, 2026 1:08 pm

Amazing, innovative , BRUTAL, but very effective and clever

4 mm ... you beat the hull back into submission!

Bravo

JB

by **dafi** » Thu Feb 12, 2026 9:59 am

Another issue are the hatches. In the lower deck, a good compromise had to be found between the various sources. The main hatch is relatively simple, as are the forward and aft cargo hatches in terms of position. I adjusted the sizes to fit the spar deck. That leaves the other two small hatches/companionways in the bow and stern. In the stern in particular, this hatch has an impact on the pantry.

When you put the spar deck on, some funny details emerge: the main hatch has a spar deck beam in the middle and the forward hatch is half covered. This doesn't necessarily make loading any easier. Accordingly, I will move the deck beams slightly. In the Ware-drawing, the waist opening also goes significantly further forward, so I will probably open it up even more accordingly.

The kit does include stairs. With a lot of effort and sanding, you can definitely make them work, but that is a real challenge. But I'd rather have new stairs, which can then also be adjusted to the width required.

Test fitting in the area of the main hatch …

... and the front hatch with its opposing ladder configuration. Opening the spar deck also would give the side ladders a more logical position.

In the bowsprit area, the side boundaries of the chasing ports always looked a bit strange to me. Until I found the kit part, which didn't make things any better. So I glued in my own patch ...

...

... and cleaned it up and added the eyebolts as to be seen on the port side..

The kit´s part of the bow´s grating is also pretty awful casted. But since you can hardly see anything after installation, I'll try a makeshift solution and sand the structure down until the square holes look sharp again. I think that should work.

It's always amazing to see the two faces of this kit: a wonderful detailed and fine hull and everything else that looks rather awful, as if it were thrown together quickly and cheaply—almost like the historical Hull model

XXXDAn

by **dafi** » Thu Feb 12, 2026 2:52 am

Somehow, the sheets and halyards will have to come inboard later, so I should prepare the passages to the battery deck with their rollers, as it will be more difficult once the spar deck is in place. Still working on that, as there are some questions to me ...

Back to another area: In the beginning of my research, I built the cabin configuration according to Marquardt AOTS Anatomy of the Ship, who offers a very free interpretation with elements of classic English frigates and museum ships. Here is a little reminder from 2023.

In any case, it was better than the kit parts

There does not appear to be any precise information available (yet) about the cabin of the Constitution around 1812 or earlier. The closest we have is the plan of the USS United States from around 1820. When comparing this with other plans, one feature that seems to be characteristic of early American ships is the round bulkhead of the aft cabin. This curve is quite similar to the curve of a short tiller, which can be inserted on this deck as an emergency tiller. Here is the source for the drawing; the draughtsman was the sailmaker Charles Ware.

All in all, it's an interesting arrangement that makes you want to try it out. It should be noted that this drawing is not an exact technical drawing, but rather a schematic illustration. So, it's time to try it out and make adjustments. This also incudes to find a good middle to the kit and the historical sources on the Constitution, especially the Hull model.

The Marquardt parts could be quickly remodeled, but after the first fit, I had the great idea of trying to fit the weather deck again, and a loud “SCHEIXX” echoed through the house, because I had completely forgotten how much the hull had warped by gluing in the inner doubling...

4 millimeters! Then, of course, the programmed width of the two bulkheads will never fit, as one could say.

So, two wooden battens were used as an argument for the side wall to kindly move into shape.

With two fitted shish kebab skewers, I was now able to take the correct internal measurements.

To make sure that it fits—both in terms of dimensions and layout—the transom and rail were fitted, and they fit perfectly!

And in the middle of the curve of the bulkward, you can see that there are 2 mm too many, but the rest looks quite presentable

So back to the ones and zeros to change the data.

XXXDAn

by **JIM BAUMANN** » Fri Jan 23, 2026 5:54 pm

>>>>>
PS: Jim, if I am not mistaken, that is the same material as you used for the anti boarding netting on your Mary Rose

<<<<

Aye Aye !!

.....and as used for bowsprit netting on 1/350 Sir Winston Churchill....

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm

Thank you!-

-it will find itself being used for the bowspit netting on 1937 Built 3 masted Barque Sagres in 1/350 as well

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by **Dan K** » Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:51 pm

I love that netting. Superb.

by **dafi** » Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:18 pm

I already used this technic in my small slices, here one can see the end result, as the netting also has to be prepared with some paint to look properly

XXXDAn

PS: Jim, if I am not mistaken, that is the same material as you used for the anti boarding netting on your Mary Rose

by **dafi** » Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:05 pm

Thank you Jim and SG!

Very simple Jim, the new black indicates, that it was a refined print, adjusted to fit the installed cranes

And then it was time to really paint those hammocks

Now with the build on hammock net holders I was able to adjust the rhythm of the cranes to the wave of the hammocks. Now gravity could take it´s toll properly, resulting in some more convincing sagging in the print data. After printing I still fine-tuned the new print by hand, so that the hammocks would fit nicely into the holders without any unlogical gaps to the mainrail.

The first step in painting was to apply a white spray primer and then brush on a tinted white to create a uniform base colour. As described above, a lot of effort went into giving the mats a natural disorder so that they would not look like sterile printed parts. Therefore the painting must, of course, support this step.

In the next step, each mat was given its own individual colouring. The paint was mixed fresh on the wet palette and the colour nuances were distributed evenly. In times before the advent of Tide, when there was not enough fresh water to wash with soap, and with plenty of tar and other sources of dirt, I assume that the colour was more of a greyish natural tone, with each roll having a different colour, just like the ropes too.

In the final step, I used a few washes of ink to highlight the structure again and restore depth and life to the rolls. It looks more massive in the close-up than it does to the naked eye. In addition, there will be the hammock netting in front of them, which also contribute to the colour shades becoming less nuanced.

by **SG1** » Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:42 am

Beautiful outcome! Now waiting for the proper nets, with this ones the look's already super. And excellent restyling too. Am impressed to see how simple it's for you to do and undo..and do again

without leaving any trace of the past assembly but only improving things.

by **JIM BAUMANN** » Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:41 am

great works!

... but I may have missed something....

but between Christmas eve and yesterday the hammocks turned form off=white to black...?

I am intrigued !

cheers
JB

by **dafi** » Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:02 am

At some point, I noticed on the model that the channel boards have no supports. The contemporary models of the constitution and the drawings also omit them, but could this have been one of the details that are not shown as they are too unimportant? Just as a point of discussion I retrofitted them.

Next, I put in some dummy hammock nets. Just to see how they look. The real ones will come once the weather deck is installed. They're just too delicate. But it was worth it, because the side view has changed again.

by **dafi** » Tue Jan 20, 2026 3:30 am

Thank you SG: And if you look at the red marker, that was only Isopropanol, I just reused the tin

And now came the part I was most looking forward to: things immediately got exciting again, the old test channels had to come down!

And just like centuries ago, the fire separated the iron parts from the rest and cleaned them of adhesive residue. Me, lazy sod that I am, wanted to save the needle head bolts, which always takes a while to get done.

And there they were, ready and waiting, the new channel boards and irons

It took a lot of effort to clean up the glue residues on the slots for the channel boards, as the model had already had about five previous versions glued on, including the original kit´s channels :-O.

Once everything was clean and fitted, the new boards were put in place and a horizontal stop helped with the alignment ...

... and, although only minimally visible, the print-induced steps on the edge were sanded down...

... and the inner edges and connections were cleaned up ...

... and paint cleared from the holes for the irons with a fretsaw blade.

And then it was time to start cutting out the etched iron parts, bending the eyes, fitting the dead eyes, adjusting the length of the links and bolting them to the side wall. Just like in the big original.

The result was quite impressive; the new parts fit perfectly. In some places, I deliberately left the white stubs in place to show that the original holes in the kit were sometimes not ideally placed.

It's quite pretty, here's a close-up, just because we can

And next up are the hammock net holders.

XXXDAn

by **SG1** » Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:43 am

I love how you solved the hammocks problem. So much better than what Revell had in mind. Looking forward to see the restyling completed. Careful with that acetone

by **dafi** » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:50 am

But first, it was time to tidy up. The kit had suffered greatly, having been assembled quickly under time pressure, pushed from one place to another, and generally not treated like a beloved model child. I'm sorry about that. Really. Reall-really …

First, the old copper test had to be removed. The stuff sticks like hell. Unfortunately, it had been primed underneath – something I don't normally do – and even a lot of isopropanol couldn't prevent the paint from coming off in places. But I was able to smooth it out inconspicuously. But that's part of the demolition process, which fits in with dafi's whole artistic concept

Then the self-printed hammock crane holder dummies flew through the workroom in a high arc and the lower links of the preventer chains that had been injection moulded onto the hull were scraped off with a scalpel and excess holes were closed with plugs.

For the huge gaps in the gangway in the kit forseen for the kit´s holders, there were matching polystyrene plugs, which were softened with plenty of styrene glue and then pressed into the gap with pliers.

The bitts on the side of the ship for the main tack were also sanded down, sawn with a fretsaw, fitted with a roller and shortened so that it would fit under the new channel boards.

The interior also needed a lot of work. Spray and glue the knees.

Where there are bulkheads, I cut off the arms for simplicity's sake.

Then, as usual, I used some diluted ink to emphasise the corners and screw heads.

And then it looked much more homely.

XXXDAn

by **dafi** » Thu Jan 15, 2026 3:59 am

Before I get to the current events, here is a brief summary of what else has been happening here.

At the beginning of last year, I started working on the hammock holders and channels. This is how Revell envisions it.

You can't even fit hammocks in there...

...

so I hijacked some of the holders from my Vic.

Still too small. So I drew new etched parts for the holders, and the nice thing is that you can try them out right away in print – and notice during assembly that print is too weak for such parts. But I was able to clarify that the parts really are the right size.

And this is what it looks like when installed. I had rolled lots of virtual hammocks to match, so I could estimate the result.

Here you can see that the mats have been given a good dose of unshipshapeness. This serves to prevent a sterile-looking impression. I had already used the wave effect, where gravity pulls between the holders on the mats, on my hand-rolled mats on the other models, and it made the result look much more realistic. But as perverse as it sounds, it is much easier to make hand-rolled mats look nice and uniform than to give virtually created mats a certain amount of unevenness

But judge for yourself.

The net is still missing here, as the printed supports are too fragile for it.

The curve at the bow has also been covered with hammocks ...

... and the aft deck as well. Here is a sequence from back to front.

I cannibalised the rigging irons from my Victory. Except for the lower preventer link, all the required lengths were in stock, but there was a lot of waste. But I was able to check the lengths using this test setup. The channel boards were also adapted anew.

Fore mast channels

Main mast channels

Mizzen mast channels

For being just a mere test, it was already an improvement. Enjoy

And then with a years distance of not having time, drawing the real parts and producing, the Christ Child (as it is this one that brings the X-Mess gifts in our area) was in a very good mood before Christmas and delivered the first samples of the channels and hammock holders for my Constitution *jumping for joy*

And finally, I had a little time to tinker with it

So, popcorn and beer at the ready, X-Files in the DVD player, and off to work with joy!

XXXDA

by **dafi** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:53 am

In the meantime, the swivels have also been finished.

Here is the status of the last pictures ...

... the one with the breathing problem

For a simpler assembly I have simply rethought. I already detached the trunnions from the barrel of the Constitution guns and printed them on the gun carriage. In this way I was able to represent the flaps at any elevation angle of the barrel and without the classic gap at the top. The tube then had the mount on the underside where the trunnions were: beautiful, practical and invisible

I used the same method here. The trunnions are integrated into the fork, stabalizing it while printing and especially during washing, and the mount was recessed under the tube. Now only 3 rounds of test prints were necessary until the necessary tolerance/clearance under the tube was found so that the mount works easily and yet with good guidance. Painting is done with the fork mounted, otherwise it will no longer fit. The test assembly was then possible without any losses within a few moments and, above all, in a very relaxed manner

And here's the whole kit: the printling in its housing, which ensures that no small parts get stuck to the base plate during printing, as the superstructure "collects" them. It also serves as protection during washing and shipping.
And on the left, the individual parts and the assembled piece. Visually, the assembled parts do not differ from the previous models, but they are much more precisely aligned and thus appear tidier.

Incidentally, I borrowed the large fingers from a Greek Cyclops. They are slightly smaller than the North African ones. But only a little.

Best regards, Daniel

by **dafi** » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:44 am

A while ago I was asked about the swivels in the Constitution's fighting tops. Since I liked the shown contemporary swivel, I programmed it, just to see what the printer would produce.

The result was 3 separate parts: Barrel, fork and holder, the rear support of the fork is 0.2 mm thick.

And you can see that it is actually fully movable, laterally and in height. Here the printing of the resin is no longer the threshold to the event horizon, but actually the pressure on the builder and his breathing to shear the 0.3 mm trunnions into the eyes of the fork.

And with a little color, it looks pretty good. If only I hadn't shot off the front two ones, bluntly glued on is actually always crooked in this scale ...

XXXDAn

by **dafi** » Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:20 am

Sorry wrong thread ...

by **dafi** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:58 am

So the question is, were masts and rigging taken off before the attack by the crew or by the airdefense during the attack?

Questions over questions ...

XXXDAn

by **ModelMonkey** » Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:07 am

Recognizing the threat posed by Typhoons, Constitution's proposed 1944 upgrade included:

Possible damage to masts and rigging prevented the actual installation.

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