To HMS Victory and beyond

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by SG1 » Fri May 15, 2026 12:16 pm

Superlative rendering of planking, excellent work. Love the ruler! :cool_2:

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Thu May 14, 2026 10:50 am

Thank you Jim, very appreciated!

Anyway ...
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... somehow I had a vague recollection that, after the modelling show in Stuttgart last November, the transport box containing the ship had slipped out of my hands. I thought to myself, with the big biannual convention in Augsburg this weekend coming, I’d better have a look inside before.

I have to say, I’ve got my research wrong again. Firstly, I can’t remember the maintop mast being shot down, and secondly, the mizzen mast was severed from its base a bit higher up. So back to the research department to see where that incorrect information came from.

See you Saturday in Augsburg perhaps? The artist will be present ;-),

XXXDAn


PS: @marijn van gils Have a good look, that is the way it should look like :-)

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by JIM BAUMANN » Wed May 13, 2026 3:06 pm

very very excellent!

The pencil is an underrated tool--especially for the butt ends

In your gargantuan scale.... :big_grin: you can put all the butt ends in--but make the, a bit narrower a line than the for and aft planking--otherwise it can look like a chessboard....


In my small scales I put some random pencil strokes on- about 25 % of what would be there
-so that the observer when he/she -sees a butt end--believes they are there
But ( haha! ) it does not overwhelm the decking

weiter so!
JB

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Wed May 13, 2026 11:42 am

After being away for a while due to work on the Constitution and work in the mids Austria´s mountains, here’s a little something again concerning Victory.

I fancied continuing the gratings extravaganza of the upper decks upon the two lower decks as well. Since I was already at it. So I scaled and printed out the plans of the lower decks and checked how they lined up with the model.

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Then I modified the 3d print files for the upper decks and printed them ...

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... and added other already existing parts.

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And then the fine-tuning began. Transfer the printed parts onto the decks to mark out the cut-outs.

First, use the scalpel to mark the length and ...

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...then use the compass-scriber to mark the long sides.

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To saw out the openings, I use the fretsaw ...

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... and then scored along the length with a scalpel and snaped it simply off.

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That was a real nightmare of planning and fiddling about ...

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... naturally with a few casualties : )

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And suddenly just like that, the gratings were in place.

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Then was painting time for those parts involved.

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The deck was given some colour shading along the run of the planks.

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As it was still a bit too subtle, I added a bit of black ink in the same direction.

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I tried out a few things with the planks, like scribing the joints and so on. But none of it was convincing for my liking. Then came the winner: a very simple and straightforward pencil line.

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An old New Year’s Eve firework stick made a good ruler, as it allowed for a slight irregularity in the line despite the parallelism.

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And then I carefully removed the excess graphite with tape, otherwise it smudges – I really don’t like working with clear varnish. The visibility of the texture turned out just right, so that in my view it can also be a good alternative to visible decals.

Right then, best regards, DAniel

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Thu Jan 15, 2026 3:42 am

And now something completely different: The Christ Child was in a very good mood before Christmas and delivered the first samples of the channel irons and hammock holders for my Constitution *jumping for joy*

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And finally, I had a little time to tinker with it :-)

So, popcorn and beer at the ready, X-Files in the DVD player, and off to work with joy!

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See you on a ship yard on other side of the Atlantic.
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XXXDAn

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:28 am

The Martians must have eaten their own ‘i’, or maybe that was the raccoons.

In any case, the Martians have a long tradition of stealing parts and tools from my workplace for testing and study purposes, and usually – if at all – returning them only after a long delay.

Sometimes they try to eat the stuff, one never will know, even the Fox did not get it to be proven ;-)

:-)

XXXDAn

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by JIM BAUMANN » Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:21 am

aha!
I am convinced now....., it is the ' journey' for you ..!! ( so far a short 14 years! ) :big_grin:
Not the completed model ( is it ever complete?)

BRAAAAVO !!!!! :thumbs_up_1: with the meticulous research and building of all the differing launches....( laden with barrels !...)

but!!!!!!!!!!!
>>The version of the Launch with sails has to be stored in the back for now, as martens have damaged it by chewing on the sails ... <<

also martens ie wasch baeren? ( racoons )? how did they get access to your sails?
intrigued
greetings from JIM Baumann

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:01 am

And here's a comparison between out of the box and something crafted with a little dedication ;-)

First, the upper decks.

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And the upper battery deck.

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Okay – the comparison isn't entirely fair, but it looks good what you can conjure up with it ;-)

XXXDAn

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Tue Jan 13, 2026 2:43 am

Thank you Bill!

And once again, we're well into the new year, Christmas and New Year are over, and there's still no time for contemplativeness.

Nevertheless, I managed to secure a little time for myself and at least finish Victory´s deck comparison.

First, I jazzed up the beakhead bulkhead a bit. Since all contemporary models from around 1800 show this in black, I also decided to forego the usual blue colour.

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To fit in the doors, I used the old trick of applying a thin coloured strip to the side, which provides a good visual check when sanding in the tenth of a millimetre range.

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Then came the first additions in the freerunning section. In addition to the four supports for the foremast bitts and the stovepipe, the steam truck was added, which diverted the steam from the Brodie stove over the gratings on the forecastle.

This required another open-heart surgical procedure, as another breakthrough was needed. The trunk consisted of a solidly constructed box sitting above a coaming. It was a bit tricky to position it so that the box was only under two parts of the triple grating on the forecastle and the partition wall was covered exactly.

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And that wasn't all, yet another hole had to be made: the kitchen skylight. So that the cooks have at least some daylight when preparing meals. To do this, the deck was perforated and opened with heavy clearing tools. Then a little scalpelling and sanding and the next hole was in.

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The skylight itself was a bit tricky. The part from my etch kit is two window grids too long, respectively too wide. So I cheekily cut out two grids and, after sanding the cuts down well, simply glued the remains back together with superglue. And, believe it or not, it worked :-)

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And this is what it looks like in place, and you can also see what it's for.

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These two openings were missing from the museum ship for a long time, and I don't even know if they have been reinstalled there in the meantime...

But you can already see the other addition: the area under the forecastle was also used as a sick bay, for which light temporary bulkheads were used, in this case painted canvas on wooden frames. If necessary, these could be quickly knocked down in the original.

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The lower parts of the mainmast bitts were already presented earlier. But I had to rework the positioning so that they were directly below the extensions on the aft deck.

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Another popular activity was sealing the old holes on the deck, as the etched parts have a smaller diameter than the standard 1 mm holes in the kit. So 1 mm plastic rods are glued in...

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... levelled, centred with a scriber and re-drilled with 0.5 mm.

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The supplied railing around the rear companionway also proved to be suboptimal. According to contemporary models, the principle is correct, wooden posts with iron bars, but the proportions are wrong: much too low and the bars much too thick. So a quick reworking to thinner wire bars...

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... and raising the posts, with the figure serving as a guide for the height.

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This completed the preparations and we were ready to take photos.

Happy tinkering in the New Year from your dafi!

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by Bill Code » Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:43 am

superb workmanship !

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Fri Dec 12, 2025 3:34 am

And this was the result of what I was able to complete during the public crafting session at the trade fair.

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The gratings also have the correct different thicknesses for the longitudinal and transverse battens on the underside.

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The admiral's quarters area was given a chequerboard floor.

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Here you can also clearly see the rollers of the bitts in the deck below.

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And the forecastle looks much more structured and tidier too.

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Well, that's it for now :-)

XXXDAn

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:31 am

@JIM BAUMANN

:-) :-) :-)

XXXDAn

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by JIM BAUMANN » Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:17 am

Wooooooooooooooo !!
I am veeeery impressed with your continued and fearless manipulation of all media to get the result you desire !!

I feel your pan with cannon balls...

On my Bretagne
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... /index.htm

I made the ball racks also--but 7 x smaller :wave_1: ( 0.20 mm solderballs )


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MFG JIm Baumann

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:17 am

Oups, and I forgot to tell you that before the planned mess, we first had to test fit the new parts.

Non-existent openings in the admiral's quarters were marked...

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... cut out ...

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... and adjusted to the bulkheads.

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The coamings and gratings were also adapted to their openings, or vice versa.

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And at some point, the upper battery deck was completely covered with coamings.

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The same procedure was followed for the forecastle and aft deck.

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The coamings are not as high here, as there were open decks underneath.

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In the area of the main mast, the gratings can be taken out, as there are some ropes leading to the bits in the deck below. This makes it easier to belay them.

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I also installed those bits and, as a little treat, a new hand pump was also installed there.

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Then the coamings were given their colour. The gratings were then masked off and painted light brown, then inked very thinly with black ink and brushed with white.

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And then there was the slave labour: gluing in the cannonballs...

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...and securing them on the underside with thin-flow superglue.

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Finally, I doped the railing with the net holders...

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... and add some thickness to the gangway with white Evergreen on the underside ...

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... and this part of the task is finished.

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:43 am

Next, I had to come to terms with the not *quite* correct planking pattern. A few beers later, I was fine ...

Then I realised that the plank gaps were much too wide and would be far too prominent for my liking when filled with paint or wash. So I came up with the following plan: I sprayed the deck black ...

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... and then scraped off with a blade so that the black paint remained in the depths like preshading. As always with my best plans, it ended up being a big mess.

Then I tried out different shades of brown, both solvent-based, acrylic and water-based, in various opacities. It resulted in a pretty patchwork.

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The forecastle in particular was quite colourful ...

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...which is why grey tones were used on the gangway.

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But what can I say, I really didn't have such a grimy deck in mind. So I sprayed it again and stripped it off again.

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In the meantime, I had remembered the other moulded parts, especially the gratings, which I had tuned to wood. That was the specification it had to match. And even though there are usually no major colour differences in the wood on original decks, except for traces of moisture, preshading with black prevents it from looking too much like a painted steel deck. You just have to throw your imagination a few little treats now and then to keep it happy. It was just a matter of finding the right balance. So I applied three glazed coats of paint until the black was only very faintly visible.

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Interestingly, the plastic of the upper deck was a light beige, while the lower deck was reddish brown. This was easily remedied by applying a grey glaze under the brown glazes.

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This technique also brings the area under the forecastle, which has no plank engraving, to life so well that engraving was not necessary and simple pencil strokes can substitude the engraving. I think that, given the limited visibility of this area, this is a good effort-appearance ratio.

So, quickly in with the printed parts...

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...and take some beauty shots.

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by SG1 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:40 am

Wise use of the gaffer tape, dafi. nice take-home technique :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Wed Dec 10, 2025 4:57 am

Before heading to the trade show, things were naturally crazy for me – splinters were flying once again.

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One of the things I wanted to show was a comparison between the original kit parts and what you can actually make out of them. To do this, the decks had to be prepared.

First, the old gratings had to be removed. Then the good parts of the deck were protected with gaffer tape and the old coamings were sanded down with a coarse file ...

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... and the remains were removed with a blade ...

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... or helped along with a fine file.

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For the finishing touches, I sawed a batten to the right width and covered it with sandpaper, which allowed me to achieve a nice even surface.

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Since the new coamings are also supposed to cover the thickness of the decks, I had to cut larger the openings of the companionways a little. A red pencil line serves as a mark.

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This was trickier on the upper deck, as the deck is not divided in half. But here too, I first had to cut out the grating ...

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... cut out the coamings with the flat blade and finish them in the same way as the lower deck.

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For the wide openings at the rear with the thicker coamings, I made a 45° relief cut with the scalpel, which meant there was less material to remove horizontally.

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This made it much easier to work with the blade.

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And then again, enlarging the section by the width of a pencil.

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For this exhibit, I deliberately chose not to use a purchased wooden deck or one built one like on the other model, but to experiment with what could be achieved with paint.

Now it was getting exciting ...

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by dafi » Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:19 am

Thank you Sirs!

Captain Dafi, personal logbook, addendum:

Recently, it was time once again for public tinkering at the game fair in Stuttgart. I had brought quite a bit of material with me again.

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A little reminder of Èvian :-)

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And my Soleil in full sun—simply BEAUTIFUL!

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One of my topics was the comparison between the parts that come from the kit and what you can make from them. Here is a comparison of the two upper decks.

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And as usual, there was plenty of delicacies to enjoy: pumpkin-sweet-potato-carrot-potato-ginger-soup special recipe dafi — yum!

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Enjoy, Daniel

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by SG1 » Sun Nov 02, 2025 6:00 am

Dan K wrote: Fri Oct 31, 2025 3:46 pm It's just superb work.
I second that! Well done dafi figures poses are superb, excellent surgery and tailoring work :cool_2:

Re: To HMS Victory and beyond

by Dan K » Fri Oct 31, 2025 3:46 pm

It's just superb work.

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