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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:05 pm 
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Have this week started on a new model. This one is ....or rather will be .... the Andrea Doria.

Still in the very early stages so there is lots and lots to do.

Haven't finished the QM2 yet. I seem to be stuck on the 8 cat boats. I just can't seem to get them to look realistic no matter what I do. The basic mouldings aren't all that good so it isn't easy to make them look right. I gave up on them this week and decided to do something productive.... hence the Andrea Doria. I'll get back to them sometime in the coming weeks.


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She's a beauty, just like the real thing :thumbs_up_1:

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Hi guys, build is progressing but I've hit a problem with the funnel.

My plans show it as a "normal" solid funnel but the photos show a cut out on the front and another at the back. Does anyone have a clear photo of what the funnel actually looked like close-up?

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Try and grab a still from this when viewed at full screen--it may elicit some info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKmt-jj5HM


I have had a look at flickr-- nothing there alas that is useful for the funnel

do however search the Life Magazine site--they did a photo coverage of the sinking

nice hgh res images--as the ship listed some of the images should show the funnel area
Good luck

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I think I can see what you mean-- but better images will be useful!


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me again...

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/andre ... uery/Doria

Have a look here http://www.britishpathe.com/video/stills/andrea-doria



this is from a movie news reel



they have a selection of stills that can be saved and enlarged--below is a sample

here is a nice bit of movie-

http://www.playerwindow.com/gxLv1az0Tpk

-view at full screen and grab the images suing the print screen function
I e then e-mail the screen prints to myself rom where I can then and save them as pngg's--then convert to jpg in my paintshop pro program


this is useful...
http://www.andreadoriareplica.com/replica.html

http://home.comcast.net/~kearneyjf/wsb/ ... 36671.html

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http://www.playerwindow.com/gxLv1az0Tpk


and this is the puppu ....

I entered andrea doria (smokestack ) in italian....

result !!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Hope these help. Front and back of funnel had same type of vent openings


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what a most excellent set if images Bill Zeb :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

excellent finds!

Jim Baumann

added a contrast increased crop of your large aft view of the funnel...

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Wow .! Those are some great shots. Many thanks guys, just what I needed. ......... now to think how to reproduce the effect ...."Hmmmm lots of tea required" he says ...as he pulls out a new 10A blade and fits it to his scalpel!


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..... now to think how to reproduce the effect....

1/700 mesh or grille PE--

have a scout round the manufacturers...

JB

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Many thanks for the advice. You always seem to be helping out with my ships' funnels: First the Normandie then the Michelangelo and now the Doria!

I've already tried looking through my PE box and I'm thinking of using 3 lengths of ships railings placed vertically and superglued together. The pictures show that the grille on the Doria was in 3 sections with thicker vertical members between. The top and bottom rails of the 3 lengths of PE railing will become the thicker vertical members - well that's the idea at least. I think it will work.

I'll have to carve out the top section of the funnel in order to build the inside and then form a cowl around the top. A fair bit of work to do but whenever you look at one of these models you always seem to be looking straight down the funnel ...... if the funnel doesn't look good it spoils the model.

Someone I know had a massive collection of large scale builders' models. He had one beautiful 5 foot long merchant ship; absolutely fantastic but when you looked down the funnel you could see that it hadn't been painted all the way down but only as far as the brush reached .....whenever I looked at the model that was the only thing I saw!

Have you seen Onno's streamlined ship model ? That's one ship I have to have ....... No matter how many I build the list just gets longer and longer!

Patrick


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Some pics of the Andrea taken earlier today. A long way to go but it's beginning to look like her ....

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Nice to see you back on the workbench. I especially like the paint job on the funnel.


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Hi Pieter,

How's your Oriana coming along?


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Oriane still consists of a happy looking keel plate and waterline plate. I'm planning to finish Straat Clarence first.
patrick camilleri wrote:
How's your Oriana coming along?


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