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Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
I will have to put my other projects aside for a while because I have been asked to build a T3 tanker hull for Bob Hoernke a member of the NC Model Ship Builders . This is going to be a joint project between him and I. I will make the fibre glass hull and some of the deck fittings while Bob does all the real work on the ship .
The hull needs to be ready for the NC fleet run in Oct so I will be back to work on Mutsu and the BK1124 in Nov .
Four of the T3 hulls were used to build the Sangamon Class CVE's. Bob supplied me with Plans for AO-22 Cimarron and CVE-28 Chenango .He is not sure yet which one he will build ,the Cimarron or the Chenango .

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The T3 Tankers were part of the Maritime Commission 500 ship program began in 1938 .Cimarron was built by the Sun Shipbuilding & Drydock Co. Chester PA . in 1939 .She was 553 x 75 x 32 and could carry 146,000 barrels of oil .The first twelve T3 hulls were built for Standard Oil. They were given Native American names for rivers and lakes .

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The Sangamon Class CVE's were the largest CVE's using converted hulls .They were the only CVE's to carry dive bombers .
The plans for AO-22 Cimarron were purchased from the Smithsonian while the Chenango came from Floating Drydock .

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Author:  SMART-L [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Tankers are interesting objects to model with all their rigging and pipes. I also like the wide, fat hulls. Love to see you making a hull.

What construction method will you be using?

Pim
Author:  Dave Wooley [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Richard A Replenishment ship , what a superb subject , I will be looking forward to the build . Not much time for building a hull , does that include both the plug, mould and GRP hull ?
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Pim & Dave :smallsmile:
Thanks for your comments .I need to have a finished T3 hull by Oct 7th .I don't know if he will then make the Cimarron using that hull ,or use the hull to make a Sangamon Class CVE .I think he is leaning towards the Tanker. I like the AO-22 Cimarron also .I am reading ( Black Shoe Carrier Admiral by John B Lundstrom ) and now realize how much the tankers were relied upon . :heh:
Here are some WWII action photo's .
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There are lots of pipes and hoses on Cimarron plus four 5in single mounts,four 40mm twin mounts and four 20mm twin mounts .
I will first make a plug or master .Then because of the built in prop shafts , I will have to make a three piece female mold .This will be used to make a fibre glass hull . :wave_1:
Author:  SMART-L [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Yeah these tankers pretty much dictated every major strategic sea campaign. They were maybe the most important vessels of the war. Maybe the president should be saying: 'where are the tankers' instead of 'where are the carriers' :big_grin:

I like these photo's very much! They show the beautifull roughness of the ocean. And when fully loaded these tankers were very low in the water. Must have been a wet job onboard :big_grin:

If you'll do a good job and save the plug you can make me a hull too :thumbs_up_1:

There's also a very good dutch made site with lots of photo's and technical papers about these ships.

http://www.aukevisser.nl/t2tanker/id94.htm

Pim
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Thanks for the link Pim :cool_1:
The keel and bulkheads were cut out with a scroll saw .1/4 in ply was used .
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A base line is drawn on the table then 90 degree angle plates are clamped to the table .
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The keel is then clamped to the angle plates .
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The T3 tankers had enclosed prop housings and no A supports .I will mold the housings in with the hull .Each frame that the shaft passed through was drilled to take a 1/1 in solid brass rod .
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The T3 Tanker all framed-up .
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Author:  Capitão Norbert [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Richard i love to see your buildings.
this project is very good i will watching with attention :wave_1: :big_grin:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Thanks Norbert :wave_1:
Each bulkhead was mounted on a large enough piece of ply so it could be used to make templates or a cradle .

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A deck template was made using formica

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I use spray foam to fill in between bulkheads .

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The hull remains clamped to the angle plates until the foam has dried.

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The foam is rough cut with a hacksaw blade .

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More to come . :big_grin:
Author:  Dave Wooley [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Richard Scratch building I just love it . I like the method you use of overlaying the timber of both frames and deck drawings .
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  SMART-L [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
You're a good person! Putting so much effort in making a hull for someone else! :thumbs_up_1:
I would experience a lot of emotional difficulty giving it away afterwards.. :big_grin:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Giving it away :lol_pound: :lol_4: I sold the hull to Bob.I have sold another one also .Trying to make some money so I can build MY ship the IJN Seaplane Carrier Nisshin in 1/72 scale . :big_grin:

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Author:  Capitão Norbert [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
a faster way to build an hull
superb and very efficiency
good to see :wave_1:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi All :wave_1:
The foam is sanded down to the bulkheads .Each bulkhead is .100 small to allow for the matt thickness .

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The middle bulwark leans inward .The angle is swown on the plans .

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T3 hull ready for some tuning up .

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more to follow . :big_grin:
Author:  SMART-L [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Richard J OMalley wrote:
Giving it away :lol_pound: :lol_4:


haha, u know what I mean..

Lovely hull by the way, looks more like a cruiser than a fleet oiler..
And I see you've got your first cargo, a brick! :woo_hoo:
But why are you fitting on the bulkheads? You're making a mold right. So aren't they usually fitted after the hull comes from the mould? Are you molding this part of the superstructure in? A lot of question marks :big_grin:

I like the way you're forward thinking, when putting in the sterntubes. BY the way you're workplace looks like something out of a Saw movie :heh:

Pim
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Pim :smallsmile:
Yes I will have the bulwarks molded into the hull .I left out some of the bulwark work but here it is now .

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The bulwarks flare out at the bow and stern .I used thin alum sheet to make them as it will bend but still hold its shape .

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I made a alum incert from the plans .The bow is notched and the incert is glued in place .The will hold its shape when I carve the bow .

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ImageThey used my shop for one of the Saw movies .Good eyes. :nod_1:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Got some more work done . :woo_hoo:
The plug is covered with fibre glass matt .

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The plug is then covered with resin .

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Now I have alot of sanding to do . :heh:
Author:  Capitão Norbert [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Richard my friend
wow i can see the hull form od your tanker easy;
great job - fantastic hull
i will watching always :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  Richard J OMalley [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Norbert :wave_1:
Thanks for your interest .It is always good to hear from you . :big_grin:
After maney houres of sanding ,shapping and filling this is what she looks like .

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Then it was time to work on the bulbous bow .You can see how the alum incert will help here .

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The widest point of the bulb is on waterline #8 .The hight is measured of the plans then marked on the hull with a hight gauge .

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A template was made and the bulbous bow was carved .

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The bow after shapping

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More to follow :big_grin:
Author:  ARH [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Looking very good Richard. :heh: :heh: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1: :wave_1:
Author:  Capitão Norbert [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T3-S2-A1 Tanker Scratchbuild in 1/96
Hi Richard
in the construction of my model KGV (1:160) I used a part of aluminum in the stern and stayed very strong and well inserted
p.s. the hull looks very good and you build so fast..
greetings :wave_1:
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