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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:34 am 
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Fantastic Katana. Thanks for all your hard work.

Does anyone know if it's possible to put this in PDF as a complete collection?

Any information would be appreciated.

TIA, Jim


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baseballbrat wrote:
Fantastic Katana. Thanks for all your hard work.

Does anyone know if it's possible to put this in PDF as a complete collection?

Any information would be appreciated.

TIA, Jim


Hello Jim,
my pleasure.

Have no idea at all about the PDF 's. I have already made copies from what I published before , but that was done in MS Word files.
Cheers,

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CHAPTER 05. AFT SHIP
Step 05.03. Cables to AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets

Gentlemen,
Today we will talk about the cables that arrive in the 2 AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets.
For clarity : the front railing of the AAA platform faces the Aft side of the ship. Good to know when you study the rigging of a ship…

Let’s take a look at the pictures list:
Pic Nr 001: This is the schematic reference picture that will be used in all the rigging steps of the Aft Ship. The elements of todays rigging step are : cables D&E, Branches Nr 2&3, Joint Nr 4, cable F, cables” J”&”K“and joint Nr 5 on the Front Bracket.
And of course : all these items on port and on starboard side.
Pic Nr 002: Side view of AAA platform with detail view of the incoming cables on the port side front bracket.Pay attention for the port side bracket Nr 5: the green arrows mark the Bracket Lugs where cables” F-J-K” are attached. Also clearly visible: the length of the rod between the platform wall and the lug-eye. Quite long!
Pic Nr 003: Upper Side view of port & starboard AAA platform, also with detail of front brackets. In this picture also, the big length of the bracket rod is prominently shown.
Pic Nr 004: Close Head-on view with incoming cables and detail of the 2 front brackets.
Green arrows: bracket Lugs where cables “F-J-K” are attached. Yellow arrows: attachment points ( 2 per bracket) where the triangular shaped support rod is welded to the Platform Wall.
Please note the 4 Brown Ball Insulators near Antenna Brackets 2&3 on port and starboard side of the antenna.
Cable “F” comes from joint Nr 4 that merges the 2 short cables coming from branches Nr 2&3 on cables “D&E”. See also Pic 001 for detail.
Pic Nr 005: Upper aft view of the starboard platform with cables and bracket.
Green arrows: bracket Lugs where cables “F-J-K” are attached.
Pic Nr 006: Starboard view of platform & cables.
Green arrows: bracket Lugs where cables “F-J-K” are attached. Yellow arrows: attachment points ( 2 per bracket) where the triangular shaped support rod is welded to the Platform Wall.
Pic Nr 007: Close -up of Pic 006 : Front-side view of platform & cables.
Pic Nr 008: Front view with detail of incoming cables. Please note the angles with which both Cables “ F” arrive on the front bracket lugs.

Let’s start the rigging procedure :
The Aft AAA platform is located between the Rear Range Finder and the Aft 155mm Gun. See Pic 005. The platform floor is slightly higher than the top of the 155mm Gun roof and it is surrounded by a metal wall. See Pic 002. The metal wall is only the lower half part of the railing because above, on the outside of the metal wall, a vertical railing is attached. See Pic 002.
Caution : the front railing bracket which we will discuss in todays rigging step is no part of that vertical wall-railing!
Outside on the platform wall, a smaller, horizontal railing is attached, much lower than the original railing.
At the underside of that horizontal railing, the 2 front brackets are welded to the metal platform wall. See Pic 002-003-004-005-006-007 for detail.

The platform bracket:
This is a solid long rod (see Pic 002 for detail) with a lug-eye on one end. The other end, the flat side, is welded to the platform metal wall. A second solid rod, bent in a triangular shape serves as bracket support and is welded with its tip to the underside of the long rod and with its 2 flat ends to the platform wall. (see Pic 004 for detail).
The location of the 2 brackets is at the front side of the platforms, but not in the middle. (see Pic 004 for detail).
When you look at Pic 003, you will notice that the 2 brackets are installed rather on the front Outer side, than on the middle of both platform walls. The 2 brackets are facing the stern side of the ship.

The incoming cables :
Each platform front bracket Nr 5 receives 3 cables: See Pic 001-002-003-004-005-006-007 for detail.
First cable ”F” : (see Pic 001 for detail). Above on the Aft Ship, rigging cables “D&E” are split at Branch Nr 2&3 into 2 short cables. Little further, these 2 short cables are immediately brought back together in joint Nr 4, where cable “F” (blue tag on port side and yellow tag on starboard side) emerges and lead to the port & starboard lug-eye of the 2 front brackets Nr 5.

Second cable “J”: from the 155mm Gun Antenna bracket Nr 2 (red & green tag), cable J leads to the lug-eye on port & starboard front brackets Nr 5.
Third cable “K”: from the 155mm Gun Antenna bracket Nr 3 (red & green tag), cable K leads to the lug-eye on port & starboard front brackets Nr 5.

Insulator Count
In this rigging step, no Insulators were used.

This is the end of step 05.03. Cables to AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets
Next Rigging Step : 05.04. Rigging Loose Cable from AAA platform Front Brackets Nr 5 to Structure Wall Lug Rings Nr 6.

Gentlemen,
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Katana,

With all the Yamato Hiroba 1/10 photo collections you have including the Rob Woods set, are there any that have closeups of the rigging hardware? I can zoom up on some of the photos, but it would be better to have isolation photos of this stuff. In the past you have posted some of them here, but some have not been included so far. A full collection would allow someone to 3D print them in the future.

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baseballbrat wrote:
Katana,
With all the Yamato Hiroba 1/10 photo collections you have including the Rob Woods set, are there any that have closeups of the rigging hardware? I can zoom up on some of the photos, but it would be better to have isolation photos of this stuff. In the past you have posted some of them here, but some have not been included so far. A full collection would allow someone to 3D print them in the future.
TIA
Jim



Hi Jim,
I have no problems to look for them, but it would make things much easier if you could give me the chapter and the picture Nr.

Greetings ,

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CHAPTER 05. AFT SHIP
Step 05.04. Rigging Loose Cable from AAA platform bracket Nr 5 to Structure Wall Lug Ring Nr 6

Gentlemen,
Today we will talk about about the 2 single, loose cables that run from the port and starboard AAA platform Brackets Nr 5 to Lug Ring Nr 6 that is attached to the vertical structure wall under each AAA Platform.

Take a look at the pictures : they give you details from different angles.
Pic 001: this is the schematic drawing used in all previous rigging steps of the Aft Ship. For this rigging step the next items are of interest : Cable “F”&”G” , bracket Nr 5 and lug Ring Nr 6. All on port and on starboard side.
Pic 002: Is a Port Side detail view of the loose wire trajectory from Bracket Nr 5 to the ring Lug Nr 6, in the structure wall, under the port and starboard AAA platforms.
Pic 003: Starboard side view with detail of the starboard trajectory of the loose cable.
Pic 004: General starboard view that gives you a good idea about dimensions and proportions of the cables and AAA platforms.
Pic 005: Angle-view with starboard detail of the loose cable.
Pic 006: Port side view with detail of the loose cable trajectory.
Pic 007: Close -up of the starboard loose cable.
Pic 008: Port side view with detail of the loose cable trajectory
Pic 009: Starboard side view with detail of the starboard trajectory of the loose cable.

Rigging procedure
This rigging step will be a simple one.
On both Brackets nr 5, cable “G” is attached and from there it goes under the port and starboard platforms where it is attached with a Lug Ring Nr 6 to a ring on the vertical structure wall.
The lug ring is located quite high above a vent. See Pic 007 for detail and the other pictures for general view.
Although Cable “F”, coming from the Side Mast tips is present on all pictures I would like to note that Cable “G” is certainly not an extension from Cable “F”. Bracket Nr 5 is the end station of Cable “F” and also the place where the new Cable “G” starts.
This chapter received its name because the 2 cables in this rigging step are really hanging “ loose”.
When you observe these cables you will see that they are not attached to any other station on the aft ship and they have no insulators installed. One may wonder what the added value is to install a short, loose cable without insulators and which makes no contact with any other rigging device.
Another subject for the long list of Yamato’s rigging mysteries….

Insulator Count
All the pictures show you clearly that in this rigging step, no insulators are used.

This is the end of step 05.04. Rigging LOOSE Cable from AAA platform bracket to lug in Structure Wall
Next Rigging Step : 05.05. Rigging 2 Cables from Side Mast tips to Second Level deck

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Katana,

Most of the photos are in Chapter 1 + 2.

01.01 Photo #7, #10
01.04 Photo #2

Also Dan K had posted a couple of illustrations dated 3/20/17

I'm going to assume that the photos are all going to be in Rob Woods collection.

Thanks for checking!

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baseballbrat wrote:
Katana,

Most of the photos are in Chapter 1 + 2.

01.01 Photo #7, #10
01.04 Photo #2

Also Dan K had posted a couple of illustrations dated 3/20/17
I'm going to assume that the photos are all going to be in Rob Woods collection.
Thanks for checking!
TIA
Jim


Hello Jim ,

The 01.01. photo 07----------> found it in my stash : see annex

the 01.01. photo 10 is from Rob Wood

The 01.04 photo 02 ------------> also from my stash : see annex

HTH but maybe it's much easier if you could describe what precisely you are looking for.
I have a database where the pictures are sorted by subject. Comes in very handy , sometimes ....

Greetings,
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CHAPTER 05. AFT SHIP
Step 05.05. Rigging Cable from Side Mast tips to Second Level Deck

Gentlemen,
Today we will talk about Cable”C” that comes down from the port and starboard Side Mast tip Lugs Nr 0 to the attachment Lug Nr 7 on the second level deck of the Aft-Ship.

Let’s take a look at the pictures :
Pic 001 : this is the schematic drawing used in all the rigging steps of the Aft Ship. In this step, the next items are of interest : Startpoint Nr 0 at the Side Mast tip Lugs, Cable “C” and lug Ring Nr 7 on the second level Deck. All on port and on starboard side.
Pic 002 : this is a general overview of starboard Cable “C”( yellow arrows), from startpoint Nr 0 ( blue arrow) at the Side Mast tip Lug, almost vertically down to the second level Deck, where it’s attached to Lug Ring Nr 6 ( light blue oval) with a bottlescrew. Also note the 2 black ovals near the Side Mast Tips and near the second level Deck. They each contain 2 Brown Ball Insulators that are installed on Cable “C”.
Pic 003 : Detail picture of Cable “C” where it arrives on the second level deck. Please note the detail of the bottlescrew and the 2 Brown Ball Insulators.
Pic 004 : View of the same area on Port side.
Pic 005 : general overview on starboard side of a big part of the rigging cables of the Aft Ship. Not only Cable “C” with the Bottlescrew and Insulators is visible but also the 155mm Gun antenna Brackets with all their incoming cables, the connection cables to the AAA Front Brackets and the “Loose Cable G “ that ends on the vertical wall under the starboard AAA platform.
Pic 006 : Detail view of the same area. Please note the location of the 2 Brown Ball Insulators and the Bottlescrew that is attached to Lug Ring Nr 2 on the second level Deck.

Rigging procedure .
Let’s start. Take Pic 002 as a reference.
At startpoint Nr 0, Cable “C” departs from the 2 Side Mast tip Lugs. A little bit further on the cable, we meet 2 Brown Ball Insulators. From there, cable “C” proceeds towards the second level Deck. Before it arrives there, we meet another 2 Brown Ball Insulators. Little after the Insulators, Cable “C” is attached with a Bottlescrew to the Lug Ring on the second level Deck.
Details of the Starboard Bottlescrew and the Lower Brown Ball Insulators are emphasized in Pic 003.

Insulator Count
In Pic 002, you notice there are qty = 4 Brown Ball Insulators installed on the starboard Cable “C”.
This means that on the Port Side Cable C there are also qty = 4 Brown Ball Insulators installed.
Total of insulators used in this rigging step : qty = 8 Brown Ball Insulators.

This is the end of step 05.05. Rigging Cable from Side Mast tips to Second Level Deck
This is also the end of Main Chapter 05. AFT SHIP
Next Main Chapter : 06.STERN
Next Rigging Step : 06.00. Rigging MC1&4 above the Stern, up to the Ensign Staff.

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Thanks Katana.

I'm looking precisely for the hardware that is holding the wires down on the hull (where they attach). A lot of these are turnbuckles hooked down to an eyelet, some are just run through an eyelet and attached elsewhere. The ropes are run through pulleys and tied down. The wires with insulators (tube type) i'm not sure about how they attach when hung to other wires and the ball insulators are looped and twisted around glass balls, but I don't know how those wires hook into the hull or elsewhere. I maybe missing things, so I have to go through the photos again and look closer. You have cover most of this in the guide.

I have the 1:200 Gallery Yamato kit with the Pontos Detail up set. This kit is large enough that rigging hardware could possibly be 3D printed along with any other parts needed to add more realism to the build. I just don't want to glue rigging wire or line down like all other modelers are doing. It looks tacky.

With your rigging guide modelers now have an accurate reference to know where all the lines go. I'm trying to better understand how everything falls into place. I was hoping that somewhere in Rob Woods photo collection that he would have photographed all the small hardware in what he had shot while doing his walk around. It's possible while he was doing a specific subject that some of this also appears in the photos.

Years ago I contacted Rob Wood asking for such photos knowing he seemed to cover just about every inch of the ship, but I believe he was moving and mentioned he would get back to me in the future, but never heard from him.

Any further photos you can find would be appreciated

Thanks again!

TIA

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CHAPTER 06. STERN
Step 06.00. Rigging MC 1&4 above Stern up to the Ensign Staff

Gentlemen,
Today we will talk about the rigging of MC1&4 above the Stern, all to way up to Yamato’s Ensign Staff.

Before we take a look, it is useful to know that in all different pictures, the names, numbers and colour codes (when present) always refer to the same items. Much easier to understand this rigging chapter :
Blue arrows: MC1 trajectory up to Black arrow Nr 11.
yellow arrows: MC4 trajectory up to Black arrowNr 11.
Blue- or yellow ovals : Brown Ball Insulators.
Black arrow: Joint nr 11 where MC1&4 are merged into 1 single cable “L”.
Red arrow: Stern Crane tip with 2 separate rigging stations : the Upper Lug Ring and Lower Aft Lug Ring.
White arrow: Ensign Staff Lug Ring Nr 13 where Cable “M” is attached with a loop.

Pic 001: This is a schematic overview of the Stern Rigging area. It shows the trajectory of MC1&4 that run from the red-striped rigging area line to the Crane-tip.
Joint Nr 11 = where MC1&4 are brought together and form a new Cable “L”.
Cable “L” is attached with a bottlescrew to the Upper Lug Ring on Crane -tip Nr 12. In the aft-lower Lug Ring on the crane tip, Cable “M" emerges from another bottlescrew and runs towards the Lug Ring on the Esign Staff.
Pic 002: As a little reminder, this picture shows the rigging area of the Aft -Ship but most off all, at its left side , the red-striped line shows the end limit where the Stern rigging area starts.
Pic 003: this is a general Upper view where you can see the complete Stern Rigging Area.
Pic 004: Aft-Side view with all the items of the Stern rigging area.
Pic 005: Side view with all the rigging details in perspective.In this picture you get a good idea where the Stern rigging starts , left of the yellow striped line.
Pic 006: View of the Aft Stern area. Please note that in this picture all the Brown Ball Insulators are visible.
Pic 007: Detail view of the Ensign Staff. Prominent in this picture: Lug Ring Nr 13 to which cable “M” is attached with a simple loop.
Pic 008: Second detail view of Lug Ring Nr 13, but this time with the 2 last Brown Ball Insulators on cable “M”.
Pic 009: Aft view of the Stern rigging area with all its protagonists.
Pic 010: Detail of Crane tip Nr 12, Joint Nr 11 and Cables “M” and “L”.
Yellow arrow: Bottlescrew in Upper Lug Ring on Crane tip where cable “L” ends.
Blue arrow : Bottlescrew in Lower Aft Lug Ring on Crane tip where cable “M” starts.

Rigging procedure.
Let’s start and please use all pictures as a reference.
One should forget, but actually we only keep following the trajectory of the double Main Cables Nr 1 & 4 that transformed back into single cables in port & starboard joints Nr 10 of the Aft-Ship rigging (previous Main Chapter).
In many pictures, the red/ yellow striped line shows the border between the Aft-Ship and the Stern rigging area. Main cables MC1&4 come from beyond that line and go towards the Crane-tip on the Stern.
In Joint Nr 11, MC1&4 are merged into 1 new single cable : Cable “L”. Cable “L” contains 2 Brown Ball Insulators and it ends with a bottlescrew in the Upper Lug Ring of Crane-tip Nr 12.
In the other station of Crane tip Nr 12, the Lower Aft Lug Ring, Cable “M” emerges, also with a bottlescrew and goes down towards the Ensign Staff. On Cable “M”, 2 Brown Ball Insulators are installed near the Crane-tip and another 2 near the Ensign Staff.

The special lay-out of Crane tip Nr 12 : See Pic 010.
A. The Upper Lug Ring:
From the moment MC1&4 left the Side Mast tips, and travelled the entire trajectory up to the Stern Crane-tip, not one single rigging device was used to put tension on these cables.
That’s why in the Upper Lug Ring of the Crane-tip, a bottlescrew (Pic 010, yellow arrow) is installed on Cable “L”.
Remember: Cable “L” is the joint of the 2 Main Cables Nr1&4, so any tension applied on Cable “L” by a bottlescrew will be transferred on MC1&4 all the way to the port & starboard Side Mast Lugs.
What a considerable distance between the Crane-tip and the Side Mast tips, don’t you think ?

B. The Lower Aft Lug Ring:
This device is located on the aft side and a little bit lower than the Crane-tip. In this Lug Ring, another big bottlescrew (Pic 010, blue arrow) is attached with one end. The other end is attached to Cable “M” which goes down to the Ensign Staff Lug Ring where it is attached with a simple loop.
The bottlescrew in the Lower Aft Lug Ring puts tension on Cable “M, and by doing this, it also relieves the tension of MC1&4 on the Crane Mast in Crane-tip Nr 12.

Insulator Count
Take a look at the 5 different locations where Brown Ball Insulator-pairs are installed in Pic 001-003-004-005 and certainly in Pic 006.
Total amount of Insulators used in this Rigging step : 10 Brown Ball Insulators

This is the end of step 06.00. Rigging MC1&4 above the Stern up to the Ensign Staff.
This is also the end of Main Chapter 06. STERN.
And this last rigging step concludes all the chapters of the Yamato Rigging Guide.

Thanks for your attention.

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Thanks Katana.
I'm looking precisely for the hardware that is holding the wires down on the hull (where they attach). A lot of these are turnbuckles hooked down to an eyelet, some are just run through an eyelet and attached elsewhere. The ropes are run through pulleys and tied down. The wires with insulators (tube type) i'm not sure about how they attach when hung to other wires and the ball insulators are looped and twisted around glass balls, but I don't know how those wires hook into the hull or elsewhere. I maybe missing things, so I have to go through the photos again and look closer. You have cover most of this in the guide.
I have the 1:200 Gallery Yamato kit with the Pontos Detail up set. This kit is large enough that rigging hardware could possibly be 3D printed along with any other parts needed to add more realism to the build. I just don't want to glue rigging wire or line down like all other modelers are doing. It looks tacky.
With your rigging guide modelers now have an accurate reference to know where all the lines go. I'm trying to better understand how everything falls into place. I was hoping that somewhere in Rob Woods photo collection that he would have photographed all the small hardware in what he had shot while doing his walk around. It's possible while he was doing a specific subject that some of this also appears in the photos.
Years ago I contacted Rob Wood asking for such photos knowing he seemed to cover just about every inch of the ship, but I believe he was moving and mentioned he would get back to me in the future, but never heard from him.
Any further photos you can find would be appreciated
Thanks again!


Maybe these can help also


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Thanks again Katana for this extensive look at the rigging of Yamato. Not only the rigging but the ship details. Like you've said from the start, no other exists on the internet but yours. We all here appreciate the dedication and the time it took to formulate a guide that's easy to follow along with backed up HD photos. Well done sir!

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Gentlemen,

Today, I proudly present you the finished Yamato Rigging Guide.
In 34 different rigging procedures and 344 pictures, I exposed you the origin, trajectory and destination of Cables and Cords, Insulators and Lanterns, Brackets and Lug Rings in all the different areas on Yamato’s Rigging Manual.

In all these chapters, the location of qty = 146 Brown Ball Insulators and qty = 39 White Bar Insulators have been unveiled with corresponding text and pictures.
Let me tell you : it was quite a challenge during all those years but I did it with a lot of pleasure.

The articles : Terminology.

I am the first person to admit that these rigging steps can not be read like a novel.
Explaining how cables run from point A to point B, and all the unforeseen problems that show-up during that process is a challenge. It takes a special kind of language to explain problems to people and to simplify the description in a comprehensible way. To do so, you need to use technical terms and expressions.
That’s the main reason why all the rigging steps are written this way.
And repeating some words and terms countless times to avoid misunderstandings is a big part of the job.
So, yes, these articles are not meant to be read like a novel.

The Indicator Colours (arrows/ stripes/lines/circles/ tags).

You all noticed I did use a lot of different colours for these Indicators. Why so many different colours ?
Very simple : because of all the pictures I used in the Yamato Rigging Guide, there are not 2 alike when we talk about clarity or exposure. It’s possible that in a same picture, 1 single object needs different colours of indicators. And then I forget to talk about the back-ground colour which can differ a lot in the same picture. Changing background colours are a nightmare when you want to clarify an object in a picture ! So that’s the reason for so many different indicator colours: for clarity and contrast.
A little side-notice : as far it was possible, I tried to use Yellow Colour for Port side rigging and Blue or Light-Blue Colour for starboard side rigging. Did not always worked out like I wanted but sometimes it did. Good Colour codes make it much easier to understand pictures.

2024 : A brand new destination for the Yamato Rigging Guide.

When in Jan 2024, I restarted making articles for the Yamato Rigging Guide, some clever & forward thinking people of this site proposed me to publish my articles in the Tips and Tricks Section of the Ship Model Forum.
The reason for this proposal was to avoid that all Yamato rigging steps would be buried in the numerous articles of the 160 + pages “ calling all Yamato fans” section.
Consequently, all the rigging steps moved to the Tipps and Tricks section of the Ship Model Forum. If you go to that location you can easily find the Yamato Rigging Guide.


And the following address brings you to the first page of it !

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=383204

2024 articles.
Since my restart in Jan 2024, the following rigging articles were newly created & published :

Main Chapter 02. BRIDGE
02.07. Rigging Connecting Cables from Main Yards to Mid Yard.

Main Chapter 03. MIDSHIP
03.00. Mast Assembly Part 1.
03.00. Mast Assembly Part 2.
03.01. Rigging MC1&4 from Main Yard tips to Side Mast tips.
03.02. Rigging Cable Nr 9 from aft SLPF to Side Mast Lower Lugs.
03.03. Rigging MC 2&3 from Main yards 60cm Searchlight Platform to the Main Mast.
03.04. Rigging Funnel Attachments.
03.05. Rigging 2 cables from Side Mast Arm tips to Main mast Lower lugs.
03.06. Rigging Connection Cable between the 2 Side Mast Arms.
03.07. White Cord from Mainmast tip-Pulley to 40cm Searchlight Platform – Vice Admirals flag.

Main Chapter 04. REAR RANGE FINDER (RRF)
04.00. Rear Range Finder (RRF) Rigging
04.01. White Cord from RRF Front Pulley to Junction Beam Pulley – IJN Navy Flag & Samourai Banner.
04.02. White Cord from RRF Bracket Nr 4 to Aft Beam Upper Triangle – The 3 odd Lanterns.
04.03. White Cord from RRF Brackets Nr 1 to Triangles on Side Mast Arms.
04.04. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 4&2 to the Connection Line between the 2 Side Mast Arms.
04.05. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 3 to the Upper Triangle Aft Beam.
04.06. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 2 to the Side Mast Upper Lugs.

Main Chapter 05. AFT SHIP
05.00. Aft Ship Rigging .
05.01. MC1&4 Double Split above the Aft Ship.
05.02. Cables to the Aft 155mm Gun Antenna.
05.03. Cables to AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets.
05.04. Loose cable from AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets to Structure Wall.
05.05. Stretched Wire from Side Mast Arm tips to Second Level Deck.

Main Chapter 06. STERN
06.00. Rigging MC1&4 above Stern up to Jackstaff.

And what about the original 2017 articles?
Creating new articles, from jan 2024 on, had a positive consequence : I was able to use more advanced computer techniques than I did in 2017. Nothing more than a time-related advantage.
But when I compared the 2024 publications with the 2017 articles, I saw an immense quality gap. A gap that needed to be filled.
So I decided to revise every article I published in 2017 and if necessary to adapt text and pictures accordingly.
Since end april 2024, all the 2017 articles were revised & corrected.
The visual indicators, or more precisely : the complete lack of them, is the reason why many new pictures were added, but this time with comprehensible arrows, circles , lines and tags.
A lot of text in the articles disappeared where I judged it to be obsolete and when it was not contributing to the rigging subject. I’m afraid that in 2017, I sometimes took the discussion too far away from the rigging subject.
The result today is that the 2017 articles are conform to the 2024 standards, shorter and showing more accurate pictures with comprehensible indicators, arrows and tags than before.
I consider this as a progress.

Any questions or remarks ?
I repeat myself from my first article on 04 march 2017 when I say that I’m not an expert. Not even close.
So it is possible that somebody, (an expert for instance) might discover errors or mistakes in my articles. I take that into account, already since 2017.
If such happens, may I ask you to send me a message via Ship Model Forum so we can solve the problem and make sure that the Yamato Fans receive correct data ?
Needless to tell you that every serious matter will lead to a correction of the relevant articles by myself.

Thanks
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For all the people that gave me positive comments for my rigging articles : Thank you.
I highly appreciated your posts & private messages during the making of the Yamato Rigging Guide.

I also want to thank Baseballbrat and Dan K. for their good advice and interventions when my knowledge and my aging eagle-eye came too short.
Thanks Jim! Thanks Dan K! You helped me very well…

When the publication button was jammed and the “next -to -be-published” articles were stuck in the pipeline, Dan K and Jim Baumann helped me several times out of my problems.
Thanks Dan ! & Thanks Jim for repairing the pipeline…

And I may not forget to mention Rob Wood. Everybody that followed the different rigging steps in Yamato’s Rigging Guide has certainly looked at some of Robs pictures without knowing it.
Thanks Rob, for allowing me to use your pictures. Today you can see they all served the right cause…

At last, I want to thank the guy- or lady that invented the snipshot technology. :smallsmile: You can not imagine what an ease that ment for me when I was preparing detail pictures for my articles.
Have a beer on me, snipshot guy- or Lady, wherever you may be !!

I hope sincerely that you all enjoyed the Yamato Rigging Guide.

It’s time for me to weigh the anchor.
And there is only one more thing left to say :

Gentlemen,
Have a nice day.


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