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So far was only for the Japanese market, now will be for global.

No, the current ones (Trumpeter's mold) will be continued on the Fujimi's release.

I am fixing to start my 1/200 Arizona and am thinking about using the KA models deck and photo etch set
and was wondering should the deck be sealed or can you tint it without harming it and messing it up? if so what color should you use? I saw Peter Van Burens Arizona and that is what I would like mine to look like.
Thanks Tiny

Tracy,
Has the November 8th photo referenced on the first page still available or has it been removed. I have three Arizona's in various stages of construction and would like to see this photo if possible. Why is the color film everybody refers to as definitive evidence of the color of the battleships at Pearl not made available to the public? Sorry for the questions but would just like to understand why the info is not being brought forward.
Steve

I may be way off on who has seen or has the color pic/video, but if I recall correctly, Steve Wiper of Classic Warship Publishing is one name that comes to mind. BTW, Classic Warships next book is #37, USS Arizona. So just maybe there might be an answer from that book that could settle the blue/gray debate. We'll see. My apoloies to Steve Wiper if he is not the person I am thinking about.

I'm not Tracy (nor do I play him on TV), but here is the November '41 pic once again.

Regarding the color film, personally I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not aware of any color photos or videos taken of Battleship Row immediately prior to the attack, at least none that's reliable. There is a brief post-attack color film showing the Arizona's burned out hulk, but unfortunately it doesn't show enough of anything to be able to make any sort of assessment. As bad as we all want to know exactly what she looked like the morning the bombs fell, we are still at the same junction between 5-S, 5-D, or a combination (possibly to include 5-O) of such. I am personally inclined to believe survivor Lauren Bruner's story that she wasn't finished being repainted from 5-D to a lighter color when she was destroyed, but that's just my own opinion based on admittedly non-scientific examinations of the black-and-white wreck photos.

Thanks to DSK for the heads up on the Stillwell book on Amazon. Just received mine yesterday in very good condition for a really reasonable price

Thank you for the information and the photo. I just wanted to be able to see the level of weathering the 5-D had incurred. At least one of the models will be pre-war gray, one 5-D maybe two and one possibly 5-S if the controversy is resolved.

I've got another image somewhere that I'm sure I posted here before, either in this thread or in "Unboxing Arizona", which dates from 10/41 and appears to show the paint worn off up near the bow where the waves usually scrub the hull. Like the one above it's a bit grainy since it was a blowup of a picture taken at considerable distance. Unfortunately all the known Arizona pics taken after January '41 are very low-res and not of much help to us ship modelers.

What is everyone's take on the blast bag color? They look very dark in the photo and look dark in the wreck photos also or is this just due to the distance the photo is shot. The Pruel model has them a lighter color.

Greetings,
I believe that somebody posted a photo showing Arizona's (or her sister ship) screws. Can you point me to where those are or post them again? I spoke with Ernie Gee of G Factor Models today at the Nationals and he's given me the opportunity to show how the screws he cast need to be corrected. If anyone has any details can they send them to me and I'll make sure Ernie gets this information so that he can help us out with this detail.
Thanks all
Dave

I see there's a lack of 1/200 Arizona updates. Mine's progressing at a snails pace. I lowered the 5 inch guns by cutting the mounting area with a large drill bit.
For the crane I removed the inaccurate braces from the ovals. Added them in the center of the crane structure. Completely PE would probably look more correct but I didn't want to spend that kind of money.

Greetings again,
I was able to find a photo of Arizona in dry dock. I started reshaping the first of the four brass screw. Any comments and suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you
Dave

I have a question about the Arizona's stack. The six wedge sections that make up the grille: Are these individual wedge compartments that lead all the way down to the indiviudual firerooms? The photoetch sets come with a grille but should it really be made up of half moon pieces with subdivided compartments to be more accurate? I looked at the stack photos in the Stillwell book and it states that they are individual compartments but I am having a hard time seeing if the compartments continue down past the top of the grille's edge due to being painted black and shadows. I hope this question makes sense.

Good question and I await the answer too. In general though, the "stack" is a casing for a bunch of stuff, so my guess is that there are six pipe flues in there, plus possibly steam pipes and other vent pipes. That would be a nice feature to model.

There is a photo in Stillwell's book, I don't know the page but I have it scanned into my computer, that shows the top of the stack. It appears that the smoke pipe was divided into four compartments and the dividing bulkheads were flush with the top of the stack. The grill was a pipe framework that provided support for a canvas cover that was usually put in place if the boilers were to be shut down for an extended period of time.

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Steve Sobieralski
Tampa Bay Ship Model Society

I was reading on page one of this section that the Banner kit hull matched the 1921 Arizona better than 1941 hull. My question is do you think it would be feasible to back date that kit to 1921?

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It was posted over on Steel Navy site. Squadron/Signal is coming out with a book on the Arizona. Going to add that to my want list for sure.
Mark