At 'Em Arizona Fans!

Timmy C · **Posted:** Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:58 pm

Full hull. Review on this site here: http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html

treadhead1952 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:16 pm

Hi Guys,

Just like Timmy's posted article says, it is a waterline hull with a bottom hull section in the kit. I have heard that it is a bit of a rough fit in places from other sources, but I am a waterline hull fan so it is of little concern to me. It is a pretty happening kit from what I can see in the box, they pretty well give you everything in one box, PE, brass main gun barrels, Cartograph decals and no soft vinyl stuff for this edition. The only thing I can see that needs some work is the dreaded "Aztec Temple" steps in a few places, but nothing too major for the average ship modeler to overcome.

I will wait on building it to get the Stillwell book from Naval Institute Press and I do have a few other planned projects happening at the moment. I want to, clear the decks, so to speak before I turn my attentions to it.

Tracy White · **Posted:** Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:40 pm

This isn't necessarily Arizona related, but I'm working on the Banner kit now, converting it to Arizona's sister ship Pennsylvania. Going to try and have it done by December 7th too!

MartinJQuinn · **Posted:** Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:14 pm

Tracy White wrote:

Going to try and have it done by December 7th too!

Yes, but which year? :lol_1:

Tracy White · **Posted:** Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:39 pm

what, the first time I started it or now? :big_grin:

Tracy White · **Posted:** Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:18 pm

I edited the first post to this thread, adding some of the stuff back that we lost.

ddp · **Joined:** Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:27 pm **Posts:** 70

i'm in the process of converting the arizona to pennsylvania of 1945.

MartinJQuinn · **Posted:** Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:29 am

Tracy White wrote:

This isn't necessarily Arizona related, but I'm working on the Banner kit now, converting it to Arizona's sister ship Pennsylvania. Going to try and have it done by December 7th too!

Some pictures please! Are you scratchbuilding the new Pennsy bridge?

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:12 am

Hi everybody! Regarding the battleship Arizona I have two different sketches, Paul Stillwell´s (Battleship Arizona An Illustrated History) and Floating Drydock´s (TFV-BB39/16). Now looking into these it seems they are a bit contradictory and I was wondering which of them would be the most authentic regarding the measurements of the ship. There are differences for example at the chair locker area and the air raid cannons in the Drydock´s sketch seem to be 1,1 ".

Best regards,

Jarmo Venäläinen

Elvis965 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:53 pm

Has anyone used WEM's ultimate Arizona PE set for a 1/350 Arizona?

Charles Landrum's review on rollmodel compares Tom's & GMM.

I think I'm going to use either WEM or GMM, but I wanted to get some opinions first.

Thanks

Bob

Tracy White · **Posted:** Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:51 pm

I've got 'em all. The WEM set looks nice but I haven't started using it yet... I'm waiting for the color controversy to be settled.

Roman1 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:11 pm

Is there some new development in the matter?

Tracy White · **Posted:** Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:15 pm

not yet

Strawberry5 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:08 pm

I got my new issue of World War II magizine yesterday, and the main story is about one of the surviviors from the AZ that was onboard and in the gun directors station. Well in the story the show a hand sketch of how the AZ is sitting today that was done by the Historic American Building for the National Park Service. When I saw this I was like cool because I have a copy of the original and I also have a prot side elevation and a scale of 1"=40'. Both of which look great and help anyone working on a sunken version of her.

Here is the bow perspective drawing.
[img][img]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Strawberry571/Models%20and%20Military/Arizona.jpg[/img][/img]

Elvis965 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:34 pm

Hi guys,

I've been working with Burkhardt Masch at modellmarine.de on some brass barrels for my Arizona.

I got examples of his 14"/45's and 5"/51's today in the mail, and I thought I'd share a few pics in case anyone else is thinking of getting them for their 1/350 Arizona.

Bob

Tracy White · **Posted:** Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:54 pm

They look a little thin to me; what was the source used to determine shape & size?

Elvis965 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:53 am

Tracy,

This was the drawing I provided to Burkhardt that he used to mill it:

http://www.usstexasbb35.com/USSTexasturretdrawing.jpg

Bob

Sten Ekedahl · **Posted:** Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:46 am

While at Telford I talked to the nice chaps from l'Arsenal and they confermed that they are working on complete 5"/51 guns in 1/350! :thumbs_up_1:

IIRC they will be ready some time next year. If this works out it opens a new detailing possibility - and even more building hours! - for the Banners' Arizona. :tongue:

Tracy White · **Posted:** Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:38 am

This thread is for all fans of the US Battleship Arizona, BB-39.

Any question about her is welcomed and encouraged; she was a grand lady and I personally would love to help anyone pay proper tribute and respect to her in their model. Revell's box (1/426 in this case) scale model of her was the first ship model I built.

There are three readily available kits of her in plastic and some others in resin:

* Banner/Mini Hobbies (aka trumpeter) 1/350 plastic
* Revell 1/426 plastic
* Dragon/DML 1/700

Here are some reviews of these kits; the first is one I wrote for Internet modeler some time ago, mirrored here after it was taken offline:

Kit Reviews:
* Banner 1/350th Review
* Banner 1350th Review
* HP Models 1/700 Resin kit
* Mini Hobbies 1/700 Plastic kit
* Dragon 1/700 Plastic kit
* Dragon 1/700 Plastic kit Premium Edition

Aftermarket Products:
Flagship Models
* 1/350th Photo-etch (review)
Gold Medal Models
* 1/350th Photo Etch (Manufacturer's page)
L'Arsenal (Many multiple separate sets):
* Bits and Chocks (Manufacturer's Page)
* 5" /25 AA open mount Gun (Manufacturer's Page)
* a 5"/51 mount has been announced/alluded to but not released.
* Paravanes (Manufacturer's Page)
LionRoar
* 1/350th Photo-Etch (SteelNavy Review here, out of production apparently)
Toms Modelworks (multiple separate sets):
* USS Arizona photo-etch detail set (3528)
* USS Arizona Small Boat Detailing Set (3529)
White Ensign
* 1/350th Photo-etch (Manufacturer photo one and two)

I'd have linked to the Tom's pages directly but his URLs are incompatible with this message board software.

Research materials:
* Paul Stillwell's "Battleship Arizona"
* Floating Drydock Plans (TFW, Chesley "D" Series)
* Navsource's BB-39 Arizona Page
* Don Preul's 1/96 Model at the Arizona Memorial
* Fine Art Models 1/192 model
* Charles Landrum's Online Build at RollModels

Gallery:
Digital Navy 1/250th
Roman Detyna

Revell 1/426
Brian O'Conner's Sunk Arizona: Picture 1, Picture 2.
* Georgius Credidio
* Joe Rocha
* Mark Deakin
* Noel Carpio and Ping Malay
* Captain Jerry Saucier
* Richard Wonderly
* Tyler Recznik

Banner/Mini Hobbies 1/350th
* Abram Joslin
* Andreas Sunarso (Mini Hobby Models)
* Chris Plum
* Charlie Patrick
* Digilio Fernández
* Erick Navas (Mini Hobby Models)
* Joe Cano
* Jim Chiu
* Jeff Farr
* Jim Fosdick
* Kelly Quirk
* Louis Carabott
* Michael Taylor
* Neil McJunkins (Trumpeter)

Tom's/Iron Shipwright 1/350th Resin
* "Bulwark of he Navy" by Andy Elwood
* Bernd Villhauer
* Jeff Herne (Tom's 1921)
* Paul S Cyr (ISW)

1/700 Dragon
* Bai Fan
* Charlie Patrick
* Hanchang Kuo
* Marty Shay (Dragon kitbash)

1/700 Trumpeter/Mini Hobby Models
* Kim Kookjin

1/720 Revell
* Dr György Pék

Tracy White · **Posted:** Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:00 am

This post is for some additional information that pertains to models of Arizona.

The Banner/Mini Hobbies kit has some accuracy issues (and how!) but they're not show stoppers.

* The lower/upper hull is NOT broken at Arizona's 1941 waterline. It is close to the much lower 1921 line, but if you merely leave the bottom off you will have a ship that is at least ten scale feet too high out of the water. The below image (scanned and annotated from the Floating Drydock TFW series plans) shows the difference.

http://www.specwarnet.net/MW/AzWaterline.jpg

* I started this some time ago but never finished it... it still does contain good information regarding the Banner 350th kit.

At this time, this is the last known quality picture of Arizona before the attack, taken November 8, 1941 as she was in drydock following collision repairs. Note the rafts on the #2 turret barbette and superstructure.

One thing I would like to point out is that the 5"/51 broadside guns that were on the main deck were not in turrets; they were mounted in casemates that were basically bulkheads with wide slots for the gun barrel to poke through. You can see a little more of what they looked like in the third and fourth photographs on this Navweaps.com page and what the shutters appeared like on the bottom picture (even though it was a different ship). These guns were trained fore and aft when not in use, parallel to the axis of the ship. Many people point them outwards radially; do it if you wish but this is not what was done on Arizona herself.

Additional Gallery Entries:
Trumpeter 1/200th
Peter Van Buren's
Rick Bellanger
Chuck Bauer

Irving González's 1/350 Arizona
Randy Lenetsky's1/350 Arizona
Gary Smith 1/350 Arizona
Anthony Tow's 1/350 Arizona
Gerry Theodossiou's 1/350 Arizona

Konley Kelley and Evan Serpa's 1/426 Arizona
Wan Kim 1/426 Arizona

Paul Helfrich 1/700 Arizona

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