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Author:  dafi [ Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:38 am ]
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Welcome to the Jungle!

Attentive observers had already discovered the hull of the USS Constitution in my shrubbery for some time.

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But who now expects a FITZCARALDOOOO downhill is wrong for the time being, it actually goes on in a civilised way ;-)

The kit has been lying around for quite a while, as it is really great in many aspects, such as the hull, but in others it does not fully meet its own claims, especially with regard to the guns.

What could be more obvious than to choose these guns after the purchase of a new printer and to program them in a contemporary correct way. The results were promising ...

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... and with a little colour quite convincing ...

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... especially compared to the originals from the kit :-)

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Grandpa, what big fingers you have ;-)

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Author:  dafi [ Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:57 am ]
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And since then, I've been itching to put these parts onto the deck. Since I still have to do some research on my Vic, I simply used this compulsory break and lifted the pretty girl onto the tinkering table.

First I glued the three deck parts together and reinforced them.

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Funnily enough, the middle part is 1 mm thicker, so the other sides had to be relined.

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Then cut off the rim for the positioning of the guns ...

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... removed the gratings ...

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... and the stubs for the ropes had to be cut off as well.

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Then, while trying to fit the deck, I noticed that the supports were much too far apart and the deck sagged in several places. So I put a small batten atop the supports for alinement and added some extra supports. I dry fitted once more and noticed that the deck did not sit properly. This is probably because the hull is curved at this point and thus the supports were at an angle. But a quick re-pinching quickly eliminated this and the deck could be laid flat.

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Then the exciting moment, the guns were put on deck ...

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... and they are sitting nicely in the middle of the port :-)

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It remains exciting.

Best regards, DAniel
Author:  Stefano Salesi [ Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:29 pm ]
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Ok, one madness was not enough, ah, herr Dafi?
Author:  dafi [ Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:51 pm ]
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Never Sir!

;-)

XXXDAn

PS: Why "... one ..." :lol_pound: :lol_pound: :lol_pound:
Author:  marijn van gils [ Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Constitution and beyond ...
The more madness the better!

This should be nice too... :thumbs_up_1:

I'm sure you're familiar with this build: https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t ... ll-58.html
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Inspirational! But I can't wait to see what more you will do with yours...
Author:  Dan K [ Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:36 am ]
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Great work so far.

Wow, that waterline version is magnificent. Don't see many done like that.
Author:  dafi [ Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Constitution and beyond ...
Yes that is from my "home"-forum, a magnificent build!

XXXDAn
Author:  dafi [ Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:40 am ]
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The main deck guns of the kit are even real beauties compared to the carronades of the upper deck.

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From a construction point of view, they are supposed to represent the current state of the equipment, but unfortunately their appearance - especially the barrels - is miles away from the original. That's why I took a little break in my day-to-day business some time ago and programmed new ones, but unfortunately I never got around to presenting them due to lack of time. Here is a comparison:

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Their construction is based - according to Marquardt's AOTS - to the carronades used from 1795 onwards, which were inspired by the British design.

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Also on the bottom one finds everything your heart desires: the two-stage slot and the pivot pin with the retaining washer :-)

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And a dafi certainly wouldn't be a dafi if it didn't also play a bit ;-)

The gun above is classically printed as one piece. Of course I couldn't resist to print this additionally as a kit - one is a model builder after all :-)

And that gives a whole new set of opportunities.

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According to contemporary plans, the top carriage can also be pivoted, possibly quite convenient for maintenance or in case of problems with loading.

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Also the whole gun can now be aligned sideways.

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If the gun is swivelled too far, the carriage collides with the ship's side.

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That is why there is a second pivot hole further inside to be found on contemporary plans ...

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... with which the gun can be elegantly moved to the wall in order to lash it there.

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If the slide is pushed further back, even the port can be made clear.

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And if you want, you can also depict completely different conditions.

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As always: It remains exciting :-)

XXXDAn
Author:  ModelMonkey [ Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:07 pm ]
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Have popcorn in hand!

Excited to see your magic with this classic model.
Author:  dafi [ Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:52 am ]
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Thank you Steve, very appreciated from you! All the best to you!

With the guns, I will certainly do a few more rounds until they are to my satisfaction.

Meanwhile the hopefully final version of the long guns came out of the printer. All the important details are in place, including the cap square key and the coins's handling cord :-)

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Also, the supports are now all in such a way that the part almost falls out by itself after printing and hardly any rework is needed.

If you cut out the coin and the stool bed, the gun can also be secured well over the port.

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But other positions also are possible ;-)

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Parallel to that I cut planks, glued them on self adhesive foil ...

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... and sprayed it black. More about this soon.

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Then the grain structure of the decks was smoothed with sandpaper ...

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... and I marked the approximate position of the deck beams underneath.

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Even if the position of the passages to the orlop deck do not quite match the plans, the concept could be transferred. These beam lines form the alignment of the plank joints, as these had to be nailed into something, as in between the beams the nails would have hung in thin air ;-)

Best regards, DAniel
Author:  dafi [ Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:26 pm ]
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And the next step was planking the deck.

The adhesive foil is placed on the black side and the foil is carefully peeled off ...

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... the planks with the black side down are glued on with superglue ...

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... and then sanded to the same height with 80-grit sandpaper. And the parquet is finished. And now diligence work for the rest of the deck.

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XXXDAn
Author:  dafi [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:58 am ]
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So, continued with some gardening :-)

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When gluing, finger cots are recommended, just cut off the tips of an old rubber glove and put them on again individually ...

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... but how do I get all the cherry blossoms off the deck afterwards?

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After gluing, the whole thing looks very messy at first, so I first go over it with the scraper to remove the worst of it.

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Then comes the sanding block with the coarse 40 grit sandpaper ...

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... then the 80 grit and individual planks that are sitting too low are scraped off with the thin chisel.

Here are the two states side by side ...

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... but slowly it becomes a deck ...

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... if I hadn't run out of planks ;-)

Happy Easter!

XXXDAn
Author:  JIM BAUMANN [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:09 pm ]
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Ha !!

just when Victory was not not complicated enough ....!

good work--labour intensive works on the deck but its results that count!¬

Cheers

JB :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  dafi [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: To Constitution and beyond ...
Thank you Jim!

I had already used this technique on my Victory.

Here on the left is the picture from which my avatar comes and next to it a picture of the lower deck of the Vasa :-)

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Coming in the right direction for me.
Just a 100 times smaller ;-)

XXXDAn
Author:  Thomas E. Johnson [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:25 pm ]
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WOW!!!
Author:  Martocticvs [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:06 pm ]
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Really nice work, and good trick. Hand painting the edges is a bit of a chore. I've done it before with a charcoal pencil but this looks a lot more realistic. The pitch would have been spilled a bit here and there when caulking so you get a little of this effect with this method.
Author:  Dan K [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:21 pm ]
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Wow is right!
Author:  marijn van gils [ Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:45 am ]
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Great deck! Thanks for sharing the technique! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Author:  dafi [ Thu May 05, 2022 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: To Constitution and beyond ...
Thank you Sirs, very appreciated :-)

Captn dafi supplement:

After my computer was in a reconvalescent home for a few days due to an "eternal boot loop", here's what's been happening lately.

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Last status was that I ran out of planks. New planks were cut, the old Ikea-shelf has become a bit smaller again ;-)

Meanwhile the deck is finished and test fitted.

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Even with guns this fits :-)

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But in the manger area I had to discover that the deck stands up a bit. But a bit of finger pressure ...

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... was remeding it and tamed it and it should be not a problem.

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While I was at this, I noticed that the entire hull was also totally warped. Midships there was a gap of almost 5mm on both sides in the battery deck. And I had done nothing that could have provoked this - no paint, no glue, no other immoral things that could have sprung from a sick modeler's brain.

Hence some bondage ...

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... to eventually discover huge gaps on the spar deck aft as well. More bondage then this means.

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So with this realized, this is truly no longer a shake and fit kit.

After that a careful look inside :-)

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At least this fits reasonably well.

Here at the upper deck the carronades of the kit ...

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... and then in comparison the English classics from 1795.

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And from close up you can see the possibilities of the new modular construction :-)

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Even from the outside, the guns give a completely different picture than the kit parts.

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XXXDAn
Author:  Dan K [ Thu May 05, 2022 11:25 am ]
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Love that perspective photo of the deck taken from astern. Beautiful work on that deck.
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