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Awesome work and detail Dan. Thank you for doing the rigging details, will order a set when they become available.

The next thing was of course a matter of heart. Fixing the stay of the foremast was still easy. To avoid having to wrap the thick stay around the bowsprit, a half-sod cable was used twice as a counterpart.



The heart has two side grooves, in the first one the rope was glued in, the length of which I had previously measured with a test piece. Then the rope was looped into the second groove.



The cut of the rope is later elegantly covered by the strapping.



The two loops are then tied together under the bowsprit.

The upper heart on the stay is tied in the classic way like the deadeyes and the excess is lashed on. The excess serves in case the stay has to be spliced.





If the stay brakes, the somewhat thinner preventer stay above serves to keep reminders up. Thats why I will later on still sneak them together. A break of the stay has actually happened to the Vic before: On 19.09.1797, the mainstay below the Maus broke in a storm. An auxiliary stay was built from tackles and with a hawser, and the topmast was lowered.

In these pictures I was still wondering about the large distance between the lower hearts and the bowsprit. However, my foolish luck prevented me from shortening them a little. The resolution follows.

It got funny with the two stays of the main mast. As with the gammoning, I didn't want to disturb anyone doing urgent business there. Only this time I had an extremely balky 1.1 mm cable, which had to go through 1.3 mm holes and twice around a right angle.



The Großborgmain preventer stay was also delightful. First of all, finding the right length on the model ...



... and served as usual. This time not double, but in the same thickness as its counterpart above the hearts.



But it should be tied together at the bottom, but there is hardly any room to get through under the bowsprit - Ohschockschwerenot - OMG!



So I threaded the auxiliary yarn through and pulled the collar along. I pushed it also through with tweezers until I could reach the eye on the other side, tied it and rotated the whole thing back again. Uffz!

But the sight is comforting.



The view of the surroundings too, everyone survived.



And then there are the lanyards to keep the hearts together.



XXXDAn

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And to finish off this wonderful conglomerate, the manropes were added, the railings so to speak.

A template helps with the knot, by opening and closing a pair of pointed tweezers, the knot can easily be moved sideways ...

... and the eyebolt was also placed to size.



Then the small net so that the jib sails don't get caught under the spars.

First clamped in a cardboard frame ...



... then primed with white and tinted with brown.



Then glued on a frame of twisted wire ...



...and cut it out.



Then fastened the manropes ...



...and sewed the netting onto them.





And immediately sent up a sailor to test it.













It's just a corner that was a lot of fun!



And here you can see my foolish luck: The hearts have the big distance to the bowsprite, because the jib boom has to be pushed through :-0

XXXDAn

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Just incredible work and attention to detail here! Great job.

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Fantastic rigging work!


Following with great interest...

Outstanding work Dafi!, very inspirational and most instructive

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Looking great! Beautiful work!

......Ohschockschwerenot..... that's a great( perhaps...) un-translatable expression

but completely apt for the torture you are enduring and putting yourself through. !
But its results that counts -- and the result is breathtakingly magnificent !!



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......Ohschockschwerenot.....

maybe Oh-what-fright-heavy-duty-emergency

JB

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Thank you for the nice comments!

XXXDAn

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Starry sky, I dreamed of the starry sky ...



So the small box went into the big box ...



... and off to Het Scheepvaartmuseum in Amsterdam (Marine Museum Amsterdam).



Holy Grounds - here we are



And my little round one was sitting in the mids all these other great models.



Right next to it the Joachim Schiffebastler with his big Amerigo and his small Berlin.



And here comes Schmidt



Great to see him grinning.



Simply a feast for the eyes his little jewels.



Here comes AnobiumPunctatum Christian ...



... and a dutch amateur was also there



The museum itself was unfortunately very poorly stocked, but there were still some great things. For example this model ...



... and some battle paintings that are well known, including one of my favorite scenes with the gentleman sitting astride the gun wiping out the cannon, who can find him?



The collection of figureheads was fascinating ...







... so was the imperial bark.



Then came Disneyland



I spare you most of the pictures at this point, only once it was stronger than me



Then shortly after Oudeschild on Texel ...



... and looked at the wonderful diorama of the Texel roadstead. Madness!







And then via Middelburg and Aachen back home.

It was nice, met a lot of great people and the other pictures of the museums will be detailed later

Greetings, Daniel

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Daniel,

KUDOS! A most excellent report & photo gallery of the show & models, etc. Really fantastic to see what other modelers are producing these days. Magnificent work!!!

Thanks for sharing!!

Hank

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What a wonderful trip! Thank you for sharing!
I wish I could have been there...


This is a very beautiful and interesting diorama:


What ship is it?
It looks late 17th century, maybe British but maybe not?

Thank you Marijn and Hank!

@marijn van gils

This is the Phenix 1664 from Heller. Schmidt is working on that one in a multiple version mode

This version is based on the Album de Colbert, a set of original contemporary drawings.

https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t ... #msg222579

A hell of a innovative modeller and a great guy, fun to talk shop with

Also he is working parallel on a storm-battered version.

All the best, DAniel

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Thank you Daniel,

Very interesting indeed!
Are there any photo's of that storm-battered version? A sailing ship in a storm is one of my dream projects...

Same topic just a page later

https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t ... #msg222732

WIP

XXXDAn

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This was the last status before Amsterdam ...



... and it came ...



... as it had to come ...



... demolition.



What had happened? While building the manropes, I noticed that some sources depicted them with knots and some without. My decision then ran through Lees and Marquardt, both with knots. However, this was a bit strange, since the knots usually only were there if the ropes were for the feet.

No sooner had I uploaded the pictures than David Antscherl in the MSW kindly pointed out that both Lees and Marquardt were exceptionally wrong here. After his hint on the contemporary indication of Steel I also found an identical passage in the Rees: Outside with thimble in an eyebolt, inside with thimble and lanyard on eyebolt.

Ok I think, I possibly get it right.

Outside.



Inside.



And as usual a climbing test.



And since the old picture was so nice and I couldn't get the light right, just a round of image processing and this one is right too



XXXDAn

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Thank you Daniel!
Great info on the handropes too!

Elsewhere, people asked whether the net in front was not a hindrance and whether it would not make more sense underneath, as is the case today.

So I simply made some pictures that I don't want to withhold from you

Here without the jib boom



And here with









You can see some things well.

- The wings of the bee give our little sailor a good foothold, which also explains the slanting position, which makes it easy to support oneself.
- The net is not particularly in the way, as you have to fish around the bowsprit cap in front of it anyway.
- The inner jib lands immediately in the net when it is brought down and does not lie over the spars. If it is stowed properly and successively when lowering, the standing area of our seamen also stays accessible.
- When the sail is stowed, the jib boom can still be moved.

What is also true, of course, is that this small net has evolved into the jib net we know today, where it has been reversed, because today you stand in the net and the sail rests on the boom. Even when stowing a medium-sized sail like the Hendrika, it takes a lot of strength to reach around and underneath the downhaul to fasten the sail. What was it like with the big sheets?

And the all-clear was also given elsewhere: In the literature, instead of the net, you always see two battens as a boundary at the top and bottom, connected with a zig-zag rope running lengthwise. David Antscherl gave me the hint that this was only a very short-term intermediate development stage that was very quickly replaced by the net.

Sorry, so I don't have any more demolition for you today ....

XXXDAn

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With the main yard I tried out the first blocks on the ship, and I really got into it with the hearts on the bow.

In the meantime it has developed further. It's amazing what a large amount came together for the standing rigging alone. Here is a family picture.



The special blocks were the most fun. Here are some in the foreground.



First the Sisterblocks, in German with the crisp name "Stengewantblocks", just try to speak that out loud.





Of course, the test assembly here on the main mast was exciting ...



... also with the matching ropes.



And also cute the smaller version on the mizzen mast.



Long tackles blocks are used to stiffen the fore topmast stay and its preventer stay.









I'm also supposed to pass this in between the guys at the heads. Will also be exciting again.

XXXDAn

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