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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:03 pm 
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NO Guys, the BigI and Hancock had a wide flightdeck at the bows. look at the flightdeck on my Hancock: http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... 0_1622.jpg Ed you posted The Hancock websitethat has pictures of the flightdeck. Check out Navsource also. It's correct! :wave_1:


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gtb -red wrote:
NO Guys, the BigI and Hancock had a wide flightdeck at the bows. look at the flightdeck on my Hancock: http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... 0_1622.jpg Ed you posted The Hancock websitethat has pictures of the flightdeck. Check out Navsource also. It's correct! :wave_1:


You are correct. The problem is that it is not modeled as a taper to the end. It is that wide all the way back to the island which I think is incorrect. I think that I am going to leave it alone though. I compared it to my 1/700 Kitty Hawk. It is even wider than her bow. I am sure that it should not be.


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Hey Nektarios,

Did you say that you had gotten the Ships&Co Intrepid? I just got mine and I think that the flight deck forward of the Island is way to wide. Like a quarter of an inch too wide! It is really obvious if you park an A-4 on the deck. I was wondering if you had made that observation as well. I compared it with my ISW SCB-27A and my DML Essex Class Carriers and it is way off.

Did the SCB-125 refitt make the forward flight deck that much wider or is this just wrong? Kind of a bummer on a $233 kit! The rest of the detail is really nice. I am wondering if I want to do anything about it(ie...get out the blades) or build it as is and leave the aircraft aft so it is not obvious at first glance.

It is giving me some ideas on a scratch build from Antietam to a SCB-125 Kearsarge.

Ooffffffff! :cry_3:


I haven t noticed but i ll check it out and tell you.
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 Post subject: Sara progress
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:33 am 
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Port side boat recesses have been 'closed' by railings and I've started to detail the forward port gun sponson. GMM detail really works here. I have my doubts about trumpeters' massive cleats, these may have to be replaced or at least lowered a bit.
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Looks great Pieter ! :thumbs_up_1:


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Nektarios wrote:
Mark McKinnis wrote:
Hey Nektarios,

Did you say that you had gotten the Ships&Co Intrepid? I just got mine and I think that the flight deck forward of the Island is way to wide. Like a quarter of an inch too wide! It is really obvious if you park an A-4 on the deck. I was wondering if you had made that observation as well. I compared it with my ISW SCB-27A and my DML Essex Class Carriers and it is way off.

Did the SCB-125 refitt make the forward flight deck that much wider or is this just wrong? Kind of a bummer on a $233 kit! The rest of the detail is really nice. I am wondering if I want to do anything about it(ie...get out the blades) or build it as is and leave the aircraft aft so it is not obvious at first glance.

It is giving me some ideas on a scratch build from Antietam to a SCB-125 Kearsarge.

Ooffffffff! :cry_3:


I haven t noticed but i ll check it out and tell you.
:wave_1:



Take a look at the island as well. It is about a quarter inch shorter than the ISW Island for the SCB-27A kit they did. I am wondering if it is scaled incorrectly? The hull looks very good though.


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Mark McKinnis wrote:
Looks great Pieter ! :thumbs_up_1:


Ditto :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Your build is coming along well there Pieter :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Mark McKinnis wrote:
Hey Nektarios,

Did you say that you had gotten the Ships&Co Intrepid? I just got mine and I think that the flight deck forward of the Island is way to wide. Like a quarter of an inch too wide! It is really obvious if you park an A-4 on the deck. I was wondering if you had made that observation as well. I compared it with my ISW SCB-27A and my DML Essex Class Carriers and it is way off.

Did the SCB-125 refitt make the forward flight deck that much wider or is this just wrong? Kind of a bummer on a $233 kit! The rest of the detail is really nice. I am wondering if I want to do anything about it(ie...get out the blades) or build it as is and leave the aircraft aft so it is not obvious at first glance.

It is giving me some ideas on a scratch build from Antietam to a SCB-125 Kearsarge.

Ooffffffff! :cry_3:


Mark do you mean this extension of the flight deck on the starboard side of the island???

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That is a great photo and one I need to get the island correct. The deck is too wide from the bow to a line from the island to the stbd elevator. It is roughly 3/8 of an inch too wide. I am using my 1/700 aircraft to get a perspective on the size of the deck.

On my deck, you can line up 3 Skyraiders easily accross the deck head to tail. You should only be able to do about 2 1/2. A-4s disappear like 1/800 scale aircraft on a 1/700 ship. You can probably get away with it if you do not put planes on deck. But, having said that, I noticed it out of the box. I figure that if it is going to sit next to 20 some Essex Class Carriers from different periods, it needs to be correct. The flight deck appears to be sized a little better from the island aft. I will do some surgery and get it right. :Mad_6:


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for the hungry masses (ahem!). Started working on the lso platform and on the plane guard destroyer. I know there are resin alternatives out there for the four pipers but these are expensive and I actually like building hulls - the detail parts will be scrounged from the spare box.
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Pieter, nice job so far :thumbs_up_1: I look foreward to seeing the Plane Guard Destroyer progress. Which one will she be?

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I'm not that sure actually. Still trying to find out which 4 pipers would have been working with Sara in the late summer of 1936.


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Pieter wrote:
I'm not that sure actually. Still trying to find out which 4 pipers would have been working with Sara in the late summer of 1936.



Ahh, ok, sounds like a challenge

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As I'm working from Morskaya Kolleksia drawings of Stewart, a Clemson class four stacker, I have simply read the DANFS entries for Clemson class destroyers until I ran into a mention of plane guard duties in the Pacific in 1936. So it will be USS Long, DD-209. Navsource has some very good pictures of her in the 1930's which also helps.


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I finally got the Randolph done. Well, almost. My first attempt at rigging an Essex Class. I need to do a few more things to it but it is close.

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Now I am only 3 Airwings short! :faint:


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:big_eyes: :yeah: :good_job: Mark!! :big_grin:

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Great Job Mark, I was gonna build Randolph in that camo, i should have researched first before adding Stbd side 40mm sponsons, Oops :big_grin: Guess it will be Hancock.


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Great Job Mark, I was gonna build Randolph in that camo, i should have researched first before adding Stbd side 40mm sponsons, Oops :big_grin: Guess it will be Hancock.


Happy Modeling

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:heh: :heh: I got a Hancock in the stash today :thumbs_up_1: I need to research it before I start building...

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kidcurrie42 wrote:
Great Job Mark, I was gonna build Randolph in that camo, i should have researched first before adding Stbd side 40mm sponsons, Oops :big_grin: Guess it will be Hancock.


Happy Modeling

John


She was the only on that wore it so it is unique. That kit will work for Hancock as well for the later fit. I have to go play navy for the week but I will be starting the surgery on the Ticonderoga when I get back.


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