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Jim Baumann wrote:



You are braver than I. While I could muddle my way through some of the things you do, I don't have the time or the patience. Kudos to you for all the extras you are doing.

As to the picture. I have no idea what those are.

Looks like a nested set of ship's boats- sort of how they used to nest dories on Grand Banks schooners, exept here vertical instead of horizontal.

Nice detail on those turret markings- they weren't mentioned in the instructions, so I didn't add them on mine.

I did 'Brunswick green' on my turret tops and hawse hole sonly.

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Gerard>
Snohomish, WA USA
If you don't know the definition of erudite, you're not.

a bit more progress...

Camel is done.

and the starfish photo mentioned earlier...

The strange boat-rack(?) thing has been made--

I can only see it on photos of Courageous--not Glorious-and only on the starboard side...

Ah well- must get on with building to complete her!

and not get bogged down with obsessing!

Jim Baumann

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If you don't mind alliteration, stupendous starfish!

Not to mention bodacious biplane...

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Gerard>
Snohomish, WA USA
If you don't know the definition of erudite, you're not.

They look to me like the standard supports to a platform, or the edge of a platform that protrudes from the deck.

If the deck does protrude above them, I'd say that was the answer.

I guess this is of historical interest now?

Hello everyone.

I seem to have an unhealthy fascination with the RN's slightly oddball vessels - Abercrombie/Roberts, Engadine, Eagle, Rodney/Nelson, Agincourt and particularly Furious when she had the 18" turret.

On that subject, is there a kit out there (or planned) of Furious in that fit, or a conversion pack perhaps?

Any information or ideas you have would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Nigel.

Admiralty Model Works had announced a Furious in this fit as part of an ambitious release schedule a few years back, but I haven't heard anything recently.

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Martin

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Thanks for the reply, Martin.

I guess I'll just have to sit tight and wait for the moment - there are plenty of oddball ships ahead of her in my model queue at the moment, so no hurry!

Cheerio,

Nigel.

Hi,

In British battleships of WW1, Burt has under Appearance Changes after Jutland while still under construction... Other modifications included:
Steel strips (Etna) and coconut matting to weather decks and other positions as applicable, 9 tons added. Another name for Coconut matting is coir matting.

Here is a poor photo I took of a picture hanging in Edinburgh Castle


Here is the same picture by WW1 artist Charles Pears from the IWM collection


Note the brown coconut matting next to the mine laying rails. Anyone for Coir Brown decks?


Cheers,
George

Tackling Furious Carrier ver by loose cannon here. Q regarding the superstructure, is furious's much different to her sisters? The 2 kit parts on top of the conning tower (what I call oreo pieces) looks a little odd to me as they appear wider than from photos and has wrong shaped/number of baffles

Is there any documented difference in this level compared to those of her half sisters Courageous/Glorious? I'm tempted to scratch build based on the dimensions of the admiralty model works kit parts, would that be a good idea?

Hello Jim; excellent work. Do you have instructions or a program that will print the excellent deflection scales hat you can share?

Starfighter Decals did a set of deflection scales at one time. Contact Mark Tutton at Starfighter, he may be able to print for you to buy.

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Martin

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Martin; thanks for the tip; Mark will print them for $10 plus $3 shipping.

I converted my Glorious to the 1917 fit:






http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5042:2017-11-11-10-14-34&catid=112

The search light platforms were modified, as were the masts.

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For some time now I have been planning the construction of a 1:700 scale model of Furious as completed as a seaplane carrier My first thought was to use one of Admiralty Model Works's kits of the half-sisters, preferably starting with Gglorious, since there is no minelaying gear on the quarterdeck. I was thrown off for quite a time by the difference in beam between Furious and Glorious: 88 feet versus 81 feet, which is 1/8-inch when working in 1:700 scale. I then thought of backdating the Loose Cannon 1918 Furious, since this would have the slightly beamier hull.

While working on this, I noticed that, while Furious had a greater beam and larger displacement, it drew a foot less, and began to wonder why. I was able to access the body plans for Glorious and Furious as designed, and started making measurements. As far as I can tell, the beam on the upper deck of both ships is identical. The difference in beam is entirely below the waterline, where Furious has anti-torpedo bulges that are four feet deeper than those of its half-sisters. This also would broadly explain why Furious draws less water. Unless I am wholly mistaken, this seems to clear the way for using the Admiralty Model Works kit as a basis.

Does anybody know what was the Linoleum deck colour of these light Battlecruisers in their original pre carrier form? Especially of that HMS Furious?

My friend could only provide this:
"The deck was almost certainly intended to be linoleum, but I have no idea as to what colour it might have been. I have always assumed some sort of brown colour to more represent the traditional wood it was used instead of: But I don’t know for sure. I would expect that a very dark colour as shown in the photo linked to have publicly raised the hackles of the traditionalists, but I am unaware of any resultant comments made about the colour. Looking at the black and white photos in Burt’s British Battleships of WW1, it seems that the linoleum colour is of a somewhat darker shade than the traditional deck planking but nowhere near as dark as shown in the linked drawing. I am attaching four photos. The first is from Burt’s British Battleships of WW1 and shows the pattern of the installed linoleum on the quarter and forecastle decks of Courageous. The other three photos are of the Courageous ships plans and shows the linoleum covering the same decks. The pattern shown is different from what was installed (I see some photos of Courageous’ decks which confirms the pattern Burt shows)."

The photo in question is this drawing which shows a very dark deck colour:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... urious.jpg

interesting

I am though not convinced that the lino was fitted, I reckoned( on my model)

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... index.html

that is was painted steel
I shall be interested with your findings

this does not look -- to my eyes -- like lino near the aft turret

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HMS Courageous From Burt’s British Battleships of WW1:

HMS Glorious plans shows the original but not implemented deck plan:

To me the links are working showing the images and the IMG tag worked as well