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I'm not sure how you would choose between Myoko and Haguro, unless the lack of a second set of bollards past the fairlead is the answer. Th

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Dan, as another effort i´m paying attention side by side to the nr. 2 bollards at the starboard side
However, i´m not yet determined which cruiser has this nr.2 bollards as this.
And as to possibility that Myoko and Haguro have the same as this, or not.
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Below is the added in the evening of the same day ;
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A taller object in pic C which I was suspecting it to be,may not be a bitt.
I was derfore thinking Haguro may havve this one(the taller object) on the starborad side,too, but nothing is visible in the blew up image.
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Indeed, Haguro in pic A doesn´t have a set of bits right after the bollards.

In stead I suppose this in pic B must look like a set of bits after the bollards.
If this is the case ,the ship in question will be Myoko, but not Haguro,,,



cheers,
mucho

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I don't know this class very well, but what you think is a bitt in photo 'B' looks more like a folded leadsman's platform to me.

Thanks, Mike ,for an interesting input.
ll´l look further into the matter, yea, the platform is there as folded on the deck side.
The thing will be,a black colored object seemingly right at the back of the fairlead,which i was suspecting to be bits like sistership Myoko has, is not positively identified yet.

The platform which lies here is so-called "Byomi-dai"( anchor viewing platform),whereas,the leadman´s platform ought to be much down alongside the deck..


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/Mutsuo S.

When the Gakken #44 book was to be published in early 2004,there had been a plan to deal with
Aoba class scale model for the purpose.When they were to take studio photos, modeller of Aoba 1/200 ,scratch built, suddenly didn´t fancy taking part in the project.Not because of difference in scale sizes, but of another reason unkown to many fans.

As one already knows,that Aoba model is now at display in the Yamato Musueum Kure city.
In retrospect it was better that this model was not introduced on the #44 Gakken book, since this model is based on suppostions and lack of info. He cound´t do better than this at that time when the model was built in late 1980´ies -1990´ies. Almost a quarter century ago.

photo sources; from a page clip from the Ships of the World,
Its´nr. unkown to me

Mutuso Sasaki

I took the liberty to go through the Hasgawa 1/700 2007 version kit model of Aoba, since some are curious about correctnesses/errors kit models normally have.

Here on the kit model various tyoes of hatches and S.L. & D.L are missing. However, it will be alright as a model on a tiny scale of 1/700.
But on future 1/350 scale models(if ever) of this class cruisers these would not have to be omitted.
Otherwise,the model would come to look just twice bigger, but so empty aboard..


/Mutsuo Sasaki,

A superb example of Aoba 1/700 model;
Maker´s errors are here and there on the model, however,this is giving us one of the best impressions as Aoba,1945 June,when the AA mg arangements of this finished model are taken into consideration http://suwastars.exblog.jp/i25/
Strictly on Senji Nisshi history this condition is not from July -Oct.1944 period.
I know the builder meant the latter, though. Who cares when the beauty of this cruiser is adeftly expressed and materialzed quite awesomely in this way?
Is this Aoba model fully PE-equipped? Looks like such...


/Mutsuo Sasaki

gents,
Kinugasa´s and Aoba´s war time pics are extremely scarce.
On a pic from one of Hans. Lengerer´s books IDing is yet to be obtained by him, nor by others.

However, I believe there are some ID points incl. the bow fairlead.
This pic actually helps find numbers and places of the small mv on this bow deck area,which seem to be an ID point.

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Mutsuo Sasaki,

High molded 1/700 Pitroad Kinugasa ,1942. Apparently this has got more deck details than other predecessors lsuch as Hasegawa´s. Pres. Suzuki did fairly well on this kit model.
The model is seen with aiming traning devices on the turret roof;it´s perfectly ok. They should not be removed. Since the author expressed this as casting anchor at the harbor in the Shortlands isl.
http://oisofactory.web.fc2.com/kinugasa.htm
I think the auhtor is Goinkyo-san,Wakayama ,who helped me identify Taihofrom Taiyo in a Marianas´pic.

Mutsuo Sasaki,

I've always been fond of these kits and I regret not having bought more when they were easy to find. Casting on these kits was extremely fine for that time. That's a beautiful Kinugasa and that's a great job on the hull plating I like it a lot. If I remember correctly the hull was plain I really never saw this kit before, however my Hi-Mold Fuso didn't have any plating.


Jose

Agreed, a great 1/700 build.

I often had time to wonder where the author of this CG Aoba book got inspiratons from,and esp.around the details,cuz some kitmodellers might be thinking of using this book for his build.I don´t have the book..

Mutsuo. S.

Prior to New Year´s Eve there´s one job left for Id-ing Aoba class cruiser on another photo from the Archives.

In my humble ,but closer examination this cruiser has some 5 -6 features totally or partially different from her sistership when the bow fairlead is included.But it´s still difficult to see this fairlead from her sistership in this resolution.


Mutsuo Sasaki,

Some large scale models are in progress. I don´t know how I may understand why the builder has chosen
to build Aoba before the modernazation.

I did borrow one of the images from the website,since I hope this one will be the pic which probably won´t need permission to post,the modeller would be rather glad to have a sales promotion; the price is, when finished, 1,85million japanese yen written on a sheet of paper in front of the Aoba model. I don´t take commsions, either.
Could be his joke. lol
Sources: Model Kan-no Kai Assoc. = http://www5.pf-x.net/~wind-earth/seisakuki-soku.html

BR
Mutsuo Sasaki,

Nice!

Mutsuo,

The 1,850,000 Yen price (about $18,000 US) really isn't too unusual. The USS Little Rock Association wanted a 1:96 scale model of CL-92 for the museum in Buffalo, NY. They recieved some quotes quite a bit higher than $18K that were far beyond their fund-raising capabilities.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for the IJN ships and your attention to detail.

Happy New Year!

Phil

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New Year´s greetings to Phil and other gents,

Truly the price must be very moderate ,or even cheaper :what I had wondered was the modeller mr. Shimizu of this Aoba model never had sold his models before,he always kept his models for future exhibitions of the Association where he belongs to. This was the reason of my suspicion about his will? to sell the model out,,,

I still remember a young modeller was offered 1 million JP yen for his 1/700 model of Shokaku,another gakken guy acquired 1 million yen for another IJN aircraft carrrier model on 1/700 of which ship name i have forgotten now...

At any rate i´m looking forward to how he (the pre-Aoba full hull model) is going to treat it in expressing details for this time,since he is known for omitting expressing details on the parts on 1/100 scale models.
Whereas, i seem to have a bit sick inclination to put every tiny inch of detail which can be seen on photos, crosschecking ém on any available sources,if any.



Mutsuo Sasaki,

As a matter of fact there ought to be certain principle matters in distinguishing a from b.
I´m araid this Aoba on the cover has the linolemm metal stoppers which are to be found on cruiser Takao and Maya. No ship among Aoba/Kako class cruisers has it this way.

/Mutsuo Sasaki,

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addendum: After all this ship can be one of Myoko class cruisers,,

Mutsuo S.