Calling all HMS Nelson & HMS Rodney fans
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- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Yes, some discussion on that here already: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=158458
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
1/200 HMS Nelson 1944 kit arrrived from Free Time Hobbies, corrugated overpack box is big as an electric bass case. First impressions, crazy-standing applause nice. All small parts nicely isolated in 3 sizable interior boxes and many enticing individual sprue bags.
1 piece hull comfortably thick plastic, molding looks perfect, no warps... and okay the plating is overdone, we all have sandpaper. Hull is so big and "smooth, 'may use a roller. Yes, even on painting the camo.
1 piece deck, nice thick plastic and planking looks fine. Lots of unopened holes beneath deck, so there are time period and fit options. May take some thought if you do non-kit-date buildup.
Main and 6" tubes do have moulded-in "drilled" out muzzles. Wait for metal barrels...? Mebbe, mebbe not.
Main and secondary turrets look really good to these eyes.
Octuple 2 pdrs okay-plus, so do the 6-4.7" HA.
20mm not perfect, but have PE shields, also some have the foot-brace part-circle bases, nice touch.
Superstructure and funnel look pretty fine to these eyes. Clean, flashless molding. Nice boat outfit. have not checked them for shape and outline (where are any good sources for RN ship's boats?).
Lots of PE, 7 frets, including all perimeter railings, like almost 400 pieces. BTW, near a thousand plastic parts.
Instructions and colour sheets are pretty hip. No desire to put them on bottom of birdcage.
Warning; am not a super-nit-picker who knows these ships in nano-detail; more a grateful humanoid who now has in grubby paws, a kit of this most unique and fascinating design. Both ships had busy, illustrious war records, serious accomplishments. This will likely be the only 1/200 battleship to be built personally, so it is intended to be fun, a clean, OOTB job for the most, not an uber-perfection AMS angst-whiny ordeal which leaves one drooling, quivering and thinking of taking up cutting oneself as a new hobby.
'Grew up on box scale "rug-play-hull" Revell and Aurora kits, so this big boat is (here) like super bad-afs smurf dance smiley face great.
Overall, 'looks like you do not have to be a real shipmodeler to construct; being an okay plastic kit assembler will likely deliver you a tasty, sweet-looking build.
BTW there is a dedicated book done 'bout '85 on Nelson. Found a good used copy w/dustjacket with a Brit bookseller and it is on the way. Might be a few more out there.
Guess is, by the time one finishes gluing and sanding and painting and rigging this big fella and sets the glass case over it, your entertainment cost will be about $1 per hour, from the time you take overpack box off yo' porch.
Just one opinion, so wail away if this first look-no-images review is not to your liking.
1/200 HMS Nelson 1944 kit arrrived from Free Time Hobbies, corrugated overpack box is big as an electric bass case. First impressions, crazy-standing applause nice. All small parts nicely isolated in 3 sizable interior boxes and many enticing individual sprue bags.
1 piece hull comfortably thick plastic, molding looks perfect, no warps... and okay the plating is overdone, we all have sandpaper. Hull is so big and "smooth, 'may use a roller. Yes, even on painting the camo.
1 piece deck, nice thick plastic and planking looks fine. Lots of unopened holes beneath deck, so there are time period and fit options. May take some thought if you do non-kit-date buildup.
Main and 6" tubes do have moulded-in "drilled" out muzzles. Wait for metal barrels...? Mebbe, mebbe not.
Main and secondary turrets look really good to these eyes.
Octuple 2 pdrs okay-plus, so do the 6-4.7" HA.
20mm not perfect, but have PE shields, also some have the foot-brace part-circle bases, nice touch.
Superstructure and funnel look pretty fine to these eyes. Clean, flashless molding. Nice boat outfit. have not checked them for shape and outline (where are any good sources for RN ship's boats?).
Lots of PE, 7 frets, including all perimeter railings, like almost 400 pieces. BTW, near a thousand plastic parts.
Instructions and colour sheets are pretty hip. No desire to put them on bottom of birdcage.
Warning; am not a super-nit-picker who knows these ships in nano-detail; more a grateful humanoid who now has in grubby paws, a kit of this most unique and fascinating design. Both ships had busy, illustrious war records, serious accomplishments. This will likely be the only 1/200 battleship to be built personally, so it is intended to be fun, a clean, OOTB job for the most, not an uber-perfection AMS angst-whiny ordeal which leaves one drooling, quivering and thinking of taking up cutting oneself as a new hobby.
'Grew up on box scale "rug-play-hull" Revell and Aurora kits, so this big boat is (here) like super bad-afs smurf dance smiley face great.
Overall, 'looks like you do not have to be a real shipmodeler to construct; being an okay plastic kit assembler will likely deliver you a tasty, sweet-looking build.
BTW there is a dedicated book done 'bout '85 on Nelson. Found a good used copy w/dustjacket with a Brit bookseller and it is on the way. Might be a few more out there.
Guess is, by the time one finishes gluing and sanding and painting and rigging this big fella and sets the glass case over it, your entertainment cost will be about $1 per hour, from the time you take overpack box off yo' porch.
Just one opinion, so wail away if this first look-no-images review is not to your liking.
- Goodwood
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Found a video unboxing of the 1/200 kit (which I'll be ordering from FTH on the 3rd), posted two days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHfP0zftI48
Edit: I just ordered my 1/200 Nelson from Freetime Hobbies! w00t!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHfP0zftI48
Edit: I just ordered my 1/200 Nelson from Freetime Hobbies! w00t!
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)
On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5
In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10
On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5
In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10
- Goodwood
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Apologies for the double-post, but I thot you guys'd like to see a 1/700 vs. 1/200 comparison.
Sean Nash, ACG (aircraft camo gestapo)
On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5
In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10
On the ways:
1/200 Trumpeter HMS Nelson
1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5
In the stash:
1/35 Italiari PT-109
1/35 Tamiya "Pibber" Patrol Boat
1/350 Trumpeter USS Yorktown CV-10
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
I am sooooo glad trumpeter is going to reease the nelson class battleships in 1/350...
I'll soon get my hands on them.
This is my favourite smile though!:
I'll soon get my hands on them.
This is my favourite smile though!:
Last edited by Aop Aur on Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Still, the 1/200 ones are much more accurate.
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
I heard that they will release in August 
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
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zotz
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Hi,
Did the 1942 Nelson camouflage also had her deck in the same colors or bare wood?
Thanks
Did the 1942 Nelson camouflage also had her deck in the same colors or bare wood?
Thanks
Eli Raphael
http://www.zotzdecals.net
http://www.zotzdecals.net
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
The rodney had both the deck in colours and bare wood. Not sure for the Nelson 
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- Channell
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
I'm honestly scared to ask but for you Nelson Class fans, how do you rate Trumpeter's 1/200 kit accuracy?Aop Aur wrote:Still, the 1/200 ones are much more accurate.
-Jason Channell
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
I myself do not have the kit, but I have seen some pictures of others' and I think it is considerably an accurate one.Channell wrote:I'm honestly scared to ask but for you Nelson Class fans, how do you rate Trumpeter's 1/200 kit accuracy?Aop Aur wrote:Still, the 1/200 ones are much more accurate.
Aop.
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Does anyone know what's going on with the 1/350 Nelson and Rodney? I really want to see it arrives at my front door...
Aop.
Aop.
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- MartinJQuinn
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Another nice find by Roger Torgeson at the National Archives, NARA II, of HMS Nelson in June 1944, taken from the US heavy cruiser USS Quincy (CA-71)
Martin
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- Dan Banks
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Just received the 1/200 Rodney and it is the same hull as Nelson. No surprise, but Rodney retained her underwater TT until almost the end of her active career. Anyone know of any pictures of the doors in the hull for these. They were the only(unconfirmed) instance of a battleship torpedoing another battleship. Would be a nice detail to add. Thanks Dan
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biggles2
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
I've got Tamiya 1/700 Nelson; I think it's in '43 or '44 fit and I would like to build it as Sept/'41 in the Med. Was it overall gray at that time? How many AA guns will I have to delete? I'll have to cut the turret roof ones off anyway as they are just awful. Are there any sites where I can find that info? As an aside, I ordered my Nelson from Great Hobbies (in Canada) on a Thursday AM, and got it Friday, next day, in Canada Post, not courrier. Is that fast, or what! Kudos to Great Hobbies for super-fast service! 
- Aop Aur
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Any news about the release date of the 1/350 scale version yet?
On the way:
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
--1/350 Tamiya DKM Tirpitz Nov 1944
--1/350 scratch-build HMS Lion never built battleship (1938)
And our artworks!
- Dan Banks
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
According to "British Battleships of WWII" by Raven and Roberts, the following armements had been added: 1933 to 35, 2 mk I .05 quad machine guns mounted at rear corner of bridge. Aug. 1940, 1 Mk V Pom Pom on quarter deck. 4 UP mountings, 2 on B and 2 on X turrets. 4.7-inch guns fitted with shields. The first Orlikens were part of a refit in October 1941-March 42. So you will need to cut off and leave out a bunch of guns.
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biggles2
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
By "X" turret, do you mean "C" turret? I thought any forward turrets were labelled A - B -C, and any aft turrets X - Y - Z.Dan Banks wrote:According to "British Battleships of WWII" by Raven and Roberts, the following armements had been added: 1933 to 35, 2 mk I .05 quad machine guns mounted at rear corner of bridge. Aug. 1940, 1 Mk V Pom Pom on quarter deck. 4 UP mountings, 2 on B and 2 on X turrets. 4.7-inch guns fitted with shields. The first Orlikens were part of a refit in October 1941-March 42. So you will need to cut off and leave out a bunch of guns.
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elcejay
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
Hello all,
Can anybody comment on the accuracy of the paints on IWM modeller Julian Glossop models? This late 40's - early 50's model of Nelson does not show the colours we have learnt to expect.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30018360
Regards,
Lindsay
Can anybody comment on the accuracy of the paints on IWM modeller Julian Glossop models? This late 40's - early 50's model of Nelson does not show the colours we have learnt to expect.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30018360
Regards,
Lindsay
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pgollin
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Re: Calling all HMS Nelson & Rodney fans
biggles2 wrote:
By "X" turret, do you mean "C" turret? I thought any forward turrets were labelled A - B -C, and any aft turrets X - Y - Z.
They went through various changes - for most of their lives it was "A", "B" and "X", alternatively "A", "B" and "Y" (as per KGVs)