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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:21 pm 
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Apologies for absence=-== holiday, good weather and old cars ... and then back to work arghhh...

but there is progress to report.-
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@ Hi Richard P ! seriously innovative outside-of-the-box thinking !
Not wanting to distract your from your Barham mission...(!)
I plodded on with my ' analogue' method-- but I think with refinement your concept has excellent potential !

back at the bench things have progressed somewhat....

The sails on the real thing were made of ' modern' sailcloth- '-in the era I am portraying they were made of Polyester (Terylene) ,
Sails such as these are cut with luff and footcurve, with minimal seam shaping .
They set well and are not 'baggy' as ' traditional sails with hand-worked boltropes along their edges would be , as such are harder to make look realistic in small scales--....I am still struggling on that point!! :scratch: :scratch:

Anyhow they are also very very white, ==> whiter than my paper!

But before I did any colouring I had to make them moisture impervious and stiff enough to take a shape

I experimented with CA-- but the paper went grey and the surface was was not to my liking, I tried a thinned enamel paint and vanish combo,
( using hemp colour to be easier able to gauge the coverage effect) and also used matt varnish airbrushed on, the latter was ultimately the most successful.

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The problem is......

that when sails are backlit by the sun-- the seams, reinforcing, reef points etc are quite prominent,

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with the sun shining on them they appear almost solid white and hardly any seam detail is visible.

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in different lights, not backlit...

the seams ARE viisble...

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in model form ,we the observer/ viewer know that there are seams--but we cannot alas encompass all the variants if the above scenario,
hence a compromise is needed.

To this end I decided to overcoat the sails and their seaming with layers of thinned white paint.
I tried airbrush but it gave a ghostly, overly homogeneous ' dead'; feel- (alas probably more correct...)

- so I resorted to brushed washes.
Its an inexact art/ science and I feel I can hopefully improve vastly on this in every direction in the future

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after a number of layered washes the effect I sought was appearing

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The spars on the real ship,

3 x booms , 2 x gaffs and 1 x staysail boom

were made of square edged sections of varnished spruce timber,

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In model form I wanted to use metal , so as to guard against future deforming, hence I excluded plastics.

I used 'old' Model Railway photo-etched items - by our standards enormously thick
original purpose unknown, as I bought many years ago a bag of assorted PE scrap at a train model show...

but in this instance I now had strong, square edged ,repeatable dimensioned material

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Getting the desired set and twist into the sails was carried out by using a clean cylindrical tube and pressing this onto the sails on-top of a post-it note pad , repeatedly rolling back and forth until the shape started to appear.

The biggest issue had was of getting the large number of head sails to set on their stays without sag or kink.
Wire would be the obvious material, but I was worried that if kinked once it would be irrecoverable

I used the .oo3 line from' Uschi von Rosten' for the stays, set up with some degree of tension ( thankfully my masts are made of stainless steel
( masquerading as anodised aluminium)!!! and they were up to the job and showed no sign of deflection.

I have had a test-rig of this material in the various sizes outside in my garden in bright UV light and all weathers for the past 4 years-- seems unaffected ...

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so an easy life out of UV light in a sealed glass case..... :cool_2: ?

The brass bow sprit was also braced as per the real thing
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The sails were tacked onto the stays using thinned white glue ( Hi-Grab) an then thin CA dabbed on at intervals.
The only problem I had was getting the sails to set at the correct angle, as the stays were free to ' rotate '
and the relative torsional loads of the weight of the sails is considerable.

Fortunately I hit upon the idea of using the slack windward sheets--if made of wire--to support the sails in their 'set' position

I plan to make the( in model-form non-load-bearing) leeward sheets and much of the non structural rigging, halyards etc
with stretched sprue a per my usual methods.

So far I am quite pleased with the overall look and feel of the model underway.

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Winston Churchill carried usually 2 sometimes 3 dinghies.

The kit items at first sight I was about to dismiss as being too deep, square and clunky...

but... study of the old news reel footage showed them to be about the right shape and size--so Imai were correct.
But moulding tech back then resulted in rather fat gunwhale coamings and a boat interior that was way too shallow

curable ... with much paring, digging and micro-chiselling fro the sea-boat slung outboard in davits port-side
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The boat on deck on chocks was canvas covered.

I did not bother hollowing this one, but installed a string back ridge of wire

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and then made the canvas ,by spanning white glue across the gaps, after 2 coats the desired effect was reached

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The davits on the leeward side were distinctly tapered;
I used ( wasted? :cool_2: ) some 1/700 Master models tapered yardarms
to make them and cut them off just past the un-tapered midway point :smallsmile:

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The boats are now painted, they need oars and and finishing, the canvas still needs a final pencil outline and the the edge of the coaming defining with a light drybrush

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:17 pm 
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Now that the weather has become more " English...."

I find myself with more time at the bench...

and am now around about the time I enjoy most--the Rigging--though this tie I found myself challenged...
despite its relatively simple rig, the amount of rope on this small vessel is quite startling!
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Working from midships outwards I first installed all the ( feasible to me ) halyards , hoists and tackles I could discern
using the Uschi .001Thread , in the main for its resilience and inability to get damaged by to knocking and kinking accidentally

The dark grey is not offensive; against the sky or any light surface all rigging on the real thing looks a dark colour,
though... I have started washing some of the halyards with a tan wash... :cool_2:

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At the terminations of the lines at the belaying pinrails I added rope coils ( as per photos of the real thing above)

thgese wreemade of very thin copper wire , painted and hung in place using matt varnish.

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The lookout platform/ cage on the foremast

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was made by carefully shaping a piece of thin-3 bar railing

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This was --after test-fitting-- painted silver/aluminium
and installed without damage to halyards, though with frayed nerves!


The ratlines on Winston Churchill consisted of three shrouds only, and were--due to the tall pole masts-

rather-longer than on 'windjammer' type sailing ship with their ' built' masts and lower platforms.

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I used some items from Alliance- ( Battlefleet )- albeit the 1/700 version as they were the right width / height
the slightly more frequent foot-ropes don't really offend my eyes ( compromise!)

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They have since been washed down with dark grey-brown mix and now stand out rather less


The two square yards were made using Master Models 1/350 brass yard arms; these had the furled sails made by adding small dollops of white glue,
then dragging the semi-dried dollops together
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Once painted they looked pretty convincing!




Another update shortly... :wave_1:

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How could I miss this log since April !?

So you are going to challenge McNarry by making your model only half the size :thumbs_up_1:

BTW, I have been always partial to those French goddesses - my late father had a row of DS Breaks in which we travelled across Europe. The hydropneumatic suspension caused quite a sensation in the countries behind the Iron Courtain in the late 1960s and 1970s :cool_2:

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....and the rigging continues on relentlessly.... :wave_1:


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Before they became inaccessible-- and obstructed by shrouds and running backstays etc
I added the gaff-spar-hoisting -spans - -made of stretched sprue
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The foot-ropes on the 2 x yard arms were made of stretched sprue--

First one creates a single bow of sprue,
then using a short straight piece of sprue with liquid cement on ( Revell professional)


whilst the glue is still ' hot' touch it on to the bow-- after 1 second apply gentle pressure upwards
--the vertical strands glue will weaken the bow and bisect it ( kink) neatly
affix vertical piece to yard arm--repeat... :dead:

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The spreaders were glued to the masts --they were made of 1/350 PE Oars
---being cut so that only the very extreme slight flared top of the oar-blade was left on-- to give a greater glue base...
It was all a bit fiddly to get them all at the correct height and the correct upward sweep-

apart from the fore mast which had upward and aft sweep.... ( to clear the square sails )

Thereafter the lower, intermediate and inner shrouds were rigged-- of stretched sprue

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The ( under) bow sprit netting has been keeping me awake...

I have been making small templates

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and scouring my own supplies and dress / hobby shops for many different very fine nettings....

then I noticed that the net orientation and hole size varied... from square(ish) to centreline to diagonal...


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more soon...! :wave_1:

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Winston Churchill had a small sun-roof over the helm position ( or for UK waters-- more of a wet drizzle roof...)
This was spanend across a staggeringly substantial ( for its purpose ) piece of frame work ,
and is a distinctive feature of SWS as well as her near sister ship Malcom Miller

Photo of Malcom Millers sunroof frame --which differs in design and size somewhat to that of SWS
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In model form I searched thru' all my PE scraps- this was nearest -alas of unknown origin...
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I covered the frame work with thinned white glue

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using a ' rigger' brush ( marine watercolour artists brush used for painting fine swiping fine lines --hence rigger)

This brush in this application is very soft and long--hence maintains contact of the glue film over large areas without the film ' popping'

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The white glue dries clear
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....and after paint gives a nice very lightly textured impression of the canvas hollowing out slightly over the high points of the framework

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The 'sea-boa't hanging in its davits was furnished with oars ( stretched brown sprue) and had its tan coloured straps added
( made of brown stretched sprue)

and the mainsheet multi-purchase for the large Bermudan rigged mizzen was rigged with its blocks

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It was important to have all the crew-members on deck standing vertically relative to the sea surface
whilst actually standing on the slanting deck of the heeling ship..
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==> The figures suffered the required brutal ankle and knee surgery stoically ... :cool_2:

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The head-sails gained the tackline down-hauls

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the next update should hopefully find a solution for the bowsprit net and more details added

The model is now reaching the stage where I can see light at the end of the tunnel.... :cool_1:

:wave_1: :wave_1: JB

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That rigging is intense.

I hate rigging. You make it look so easy!

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Thank you for your comment Martin! :wave_1:

Oddly enough it is the rigging that brings a model of any ship really to life and adds that feeling of delicacy and intricacy
especially on a sailing ship....
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Small steps now-- I have an A4 sheet of paper jammed full with pencil jottings of all the remaining jobs to do on the model.... :Mad_6:

Yesterday evenings achievements were to create the Boom crutch/ gallows

-This was (almost) permanently rigged ..
and allowed the long heavy mizzen mast boom to rest upon when sails were dropped.
On the model I made this of strips of Brass PE and stretched sprue for the diagonals

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Have now also managed to make the mast flagstaffs -complete with tint mast trucks atop --On the real ship these were made of wood,
on mine they are made of fuse-wire, pulled, stretched and straightened-- and most alarmingly ... butt glued onto the flat top surface of the mast


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To stop these falling over ...-incessantly ! :Mad_5: ) whilst the (rather un-super ! ) super glue/ CA was setting...


I simply held the model on its base upside down and allowed gravity and my eyeballing to get them aligned!
its an old idea of mine from 15 years ago ( and when I was CONSIDERABLY heavier too !!! ) when gluing top masts on my old Tsessaravitch model....


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Jim, you probably said this somewhere already, but how do you simulate blocks at this scale ? Blobs of coloured glue ?

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Hi Wefalck!

small blocks ( on mast or similar) are either white glue then paint--or just paint on brush

larger blocks are either very small photo-etch circles ( usually harvested from a part not intended as a block
(ie 1/700 pompom gunsights etc)

or for larger blocks a 1/700 porthole lid or small slivers of styrene rod

encs a picture of todays trials and tribulations....

the running backstays -unusually had two mast take-offs-- 7/8 and 3/4 of mast height
the split again with a cascade pulley

darn tricky in small scale !!! my outer shrouds of stretched prue alas suffered quite badly due to tweezer interference... (!!!!)

(aka my clumsiness !! ) :cool_2: so more rigging of these again..!


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Fantastic work Jim, it looks fabulous! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Thanks also for all the in-progress shots and tips.

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Hello Jim

your work reaches an incredible finesse :woo_hoo: sublim :thumbs_up_1:
a day ,I hope to reach your dexterity...
fabuleux
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The ship is now in the end stages of the build...--( Phew!!! )

A very distinctive aspect of SWC were the relatively ENORMOUS Navigation light background boxes

( Compared to the rather more slimline versions seen on warships old and new ! )


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I made these using a brass PE square ( cut from larger railing ) -backed with paper
-to which were added the larger edges aft and bottom made of strips of thin paper

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These were NOT mounted to the shrouds as they would be angled upwards,
but in real life were upright and had struts supporting them off the coaming
I used some PE railing glued on from behind and then glued this to the inboard edge of the timber capping strake

The lanterns were made of brass tube, a small dollop of white glue to fill the top hole ( painted brass later )
with a very small strip of black decal to simulate the lens
the end result was not entirely displeasing.

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after much fiddling, many attempts I managed to get the bow sprit netting in place to my liking

Now the sea base has had its first coat I can see it too distictvly--making a harsh contrast
I shall gently wash it with light grey to tone down the white

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Failing to find a decal red ensign to my liking .... ( most of them the red is too dark, or the decal to thick to crease nicely

I resorted to making my own of paper, coloured with water soluble Caran 'd'ache Pencils, with the union jack sourced from an old but sharply( alps) printed
'Dungain' decal sheet from Duane Fowler

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Just have to refine the water now with a few layers, a bit of rigging twiddle and she should be as complete as I can make her...

see you soon

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Beauty as always, Jim.

When washing the netting, how do you keep the liquid from clogging up the spaces? Or is the wash thin enough that it's not an issue?

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That work is truly amazing! :woo_hoo:


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Gorgeous close-ups!! :thumbs_up_1:

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.... :cool_2: and so the model has reached completion...

Painting the sea was a pleasure--as the model really came to life !

Despite being a ' modern ' sailing ship( launched 1966) , I've learnt much and quite enjoyed the research--
often from Pathe news reels, but also from private video footage that has been uploaded to youtube

There is much that I would have tried harder on were I to repat the build,
- I have gained valuable experience in small sailing ship modelling which I shall put to use
in a future 3-masted sailing ship project that is germinating as we speak... :big_grin:

....but in the meantime I shall build a couple of small ship models that do not have sails !!
...-though they will have ratlines... :cool_1: :big_grin:

Some " proper" photos will be taken soon and appear in the gallery in due course

--meanwhile a couple of point-and-shoot camera images from today see below:

As a conclusion to the project, Sir Winston Churchill had a few mishaps early on in her career...
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In November 1965, Sir Winston Churchill toppled over onto her starboard side whilst she was being fitted out.
All three masts were broken. The accident happened a week before she was due to be launched...


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....whilst manoeuvring at a dockside , she speared a delivery lorry with her bowsprit (!)
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She did however have a happy ending--after 24 years of intensive service, when her days as a youth sail training vessel
-- including a visit to the USA in 1976 --- were at an end,she was sold initially to a firm that after the refit intended using her as a training vessel.

Some years later she passed into Greek hands, she was subject to major and comprehensive refit in 2016
emerging as a highly polished and beautiful private sailing yacht
now being used as a private and charter yacht in the sunny Mediterranean sea

( Her near sister Malcolm Miller also was converted to a luxury sailing vessel in Greece )

Her gaff rig on fore and mainmast have been retained and she is available for charter with a crew of nine professionals for a basic day rate of Euro 5,750. (!)

Herewith today's snapshots of the finished model

Jim Baumann :wave_1:


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This is just wonderful!
Having followed the build I'm still surprised to see how marvellous she looks once completed.


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That's an exceedingly lovely rendition of an elegant ship.

I like the energetic dynamism of the diorama. You can sense the motion of the ship.

Your sails really turned out very nice indeed!

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Thank you gentlemen !

I was not displeased myself-- :cool_2:

The overall effect is quite convincing-- and after spending 6 months looking at it through my x 5 magnification Optivisor...

I have to remind myself the ships is only 4 inches loa! and on the whole is quite nice!

But I had caught a taste for miniature sail after the Mary Rose and now the Winston Churchill...

but for now I shall build a steel ship model ...

see upcoming thread!

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Excellent work, Jim. She is a beauty.

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