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And some other books you may want...

Hi Brad
The Bismarck books look great.
A couple of the books that Sgtmac showed would be handy also.
Bismarck 19, and the one by Hertzog would be a help. AJ press did a good group on the Bismarck class.

The wood I used was beautifully aged lemon-wood, colour mixed to give that realistic effect.
This was supplied by "Modeling timbers" sadly Keith does not do the wood any more.
He used to supply it cut to size but not length at a very reasonable price.

Blowing up plans from books can be a painful and inaccurate pass time, If you do, then compare the blown up photocopy with the loft drawing from Nick.
I would cut the frames out in the usual monocoque fashion. If you have a shaft pass through it ....... just drill holes.
Nothing like a nice strong frame!

Brass is great but unforgiving. A crease is nearly always a crease. Once you get used to it it can be very good. (It lasts forever.)
I use .2mm thick.
Failing that there is a superstructure in kit form available from Germany that is stunning.

Who are you getting a running set from?
I use G. Sitec.

Phil

As I am also building a SSY 1/100 Bismarck, I would be greatly interested in parts and PE for this ship. Perhaps a review of what is currently available and a US source, if possible.
I especially like all of the advice on building that is offered.
Thank you.

All

Have a look at this.

http://www.mz-modellbau.net/

Type in the word bismarck in the search box.


It is only one of a few sites.

Phil

In relation to the photocopying, I found that it will help me with the framing, ie shape and size, I have the Nick Fox drawings and photo's for the rest.

Working with brass.
I am still waiting for the completion of my hull and I am thinking forward to the build and I want to work with brass, for some reason I think the model would look more realistic, the only problem is that i have no idea on working with brass. Can anybody give me some pointers in relation to where I can gather an understanding on working with it.


Regards


Brad

Has any one bought the book-Weapons of War:BISMARCK by Robert Jackson? There is one advertised on Amazon for $76.75 and I was wondering if it had any new pictures to offer other than illustrations.


Thanks

Hi Sgt Mac,
Did a search on your book found it for sale for 15 euros see the link
http://www.barbarossabooks.eu/weapons-o ... -8781.html

If anybody has this book let us know if it is any good. I still have to save a little bit and get hold of the Josef Kaiser books.


Regards,

Brad

GUNS!!!
I have attached some images of the 10.5cm guns in LC37 mounts from the Prinz Eugen, they appear to be the same as those on the Bismarck have a look and let me know if this is the case.


Brad

Hi Brad


The beasties you want are 10.5 cm SK-C/33.
and 20.5cm SK-C 37.

Two variants on Bismarck.
Very interesting axial mount on these.

Phil.

Hey Phil,
Thanks for the input, I noticed that there were two variants, I found that these guns were on both classes of ships, Do the ones that you have differ from those on the Prinz Eugen? and how is your model coming along?
As i find more photo's I will post them on here for comment.

Thanks for input.

Brad

Looking forward to the arrival of my model in June-July

Lee just got back to me with an update, he's is on schedule for my June-July delivery which is what i wanted and i am looking forward to the delivery, i will be finished uni forever by then and I can't wait to get started on the build.


Thanks Lee!!!!!!


Regards


Brad

New Bismarck book out. Superb illustrations of the ship from many angles plus a 1/350 scale drawing of the starboard and top views and many other detail drawings similar to 1/100 drwings.






I got mine through Squadron.

Hi!
I got that book few weeks ago. It is really superb, it is a pity that they do not pay too much attention to the hull as much as the superstructure. The colors used seems to be not accurate but... I still love that book. I also have the 3D book of the Scharnhorst and I think it is much better. The color of the deck in the Scherhorst book is simply outstanding and the details of the ships are really amazing. It was worth the very long delivery time from Poland to Switzerland (more than 4 weeks) and for 20 Euros the book it was a bargain. The 3D images in the Scharhorst book are superb, it seems that we can touch the guns and boats and the rigging using the special glasses included... Definitive I reccomend those books for any modeller. The Bismarck's drawings in 1/350 scale are very well done, it is a pity that I receive only one sheet with drawings showing the forwrd superstructure, the profile of the ship and a plan view. Nothing concerning the aft superstructure in detail as for the forward one. I suspect that one sheet is missing. The drawings of the Scharnhorst are magnificent!

Best regards to all.

Rafael

It has been a marathon effort but I am now ready to pay for the freight for this beast. It is not cheap. Lee suggested that I could cut the hull to reduce the cost but I am not quite confident enough to put it back together.
Hopefully it will be here in the next month and I can get started.
The next step after it arrives is to figure where to start any suggestions?

Regards,

Brad.

Hi Brad
do you starting the superstructure or pretend finish the hull before?

bradjack99 wrote:It has been a marathon effort but I am now ready to pay for the freight for this beast. It is not cheap. Lee suggested that I could cut the hull to reduce the cost but I am not quite confident enough to put it back together.
Hopefully it will be here in the next month and I can get started.
The next step after it arrives is to figure where to start any suggestions?

Regards,

Brad.

H Brad Glad to hear that you will be taking delivery of the Bismarck Hull soon. As a general first move plan your build before you even start. There is so much available on this board that will answer a host of your questions. But as a tip engineering first and foremost , shaft , A frames, rudders and linkages Servos , motors R/C equipment , speed controllers and if you want revolving turrets , lighting or any other working feature consider the wiring, looms .Plan where you intend to remove the superstructure for access as this will effect the positioning of the batteries . Always prepare for the unexpected so access to the tiller flat is essential. Make sure you are able to remove the speed controllers; if they malfunction nothing is more frustrating than having to remove hardware that is covered over. Then once all the hardware is installed conduct ballasting trials . Its best not to fix any of the deck that can come later once you are satisfied that the engineering has been well tested and the vessel can be ballasted reasonably well even with out the superstructure.
These pictures show the hull of the G3 Battle Cruiser under test .Here the batteries provide much of the ballast . Try to avoid trim ballast that you can�t gain access to.
So there is the answer to your question as for the building of the model that�s another question . Hope this helps



Dave Wooley


There is no such thing as an accurate model only degrees of interpretation
DW

Hi Brad
Looking forward to you build .

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the direction in where to start. I was going to start from the keel and work my way up. It is always good to utilise the experience of other's to bolster my lack of experience. I am also not looking forward to the cost of some of the gear to make it RC.
I am going to plan a lot of the wiring and everything else around access and functionality prior to actually beginning the building. I feel that it would be easier to change on paper than in the model.

I am planning on putting lights in though I have not decided what type as yet and the turrets to be animated.

Thanks for the support. As with a lot of the other builds on here it will take quite a while and i think it will be a good journey.

Richard, I too am looking forward to getting started. I bought my Nick Fox plans in 2002, that is how long I have been thinking about building it for, and now I am finally taking the plunge.