Carrier Builders Yard, whats on the Slipway

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My Independence is turning out great. Trumpy Kitty Hawk will be use to make my Ranger 1991. I will see if Steve will convert his Indy island into Ranger.
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waiting on trumpy kitty hawk to start on ranger
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Good day guys

Anyone happen to have ship plans(section parts) from colossus class/arromanches/karel doorman?
I found one from the internet but its bkurry and scaled.
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I am making the Karel Doorman in 3d at 1/700 scale to print.
I already own the 1/400 scale Karel doorman in build kit
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Have you thought about just converting the Imperial Hobby Productions plastic kit? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-700-HMS-Colo ... 3825693304?
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The 'blurry' drawing (looks good enough for '700 to me though) is from the old French plan service, search for 'service historique arromanches' for better versions.
The post-modernisation Doorman can be found at https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzo ... -3233~3228 .
If the direct link does not work, look at the nationaal archief website -> onderzoeken> bouwtekeningen van schepen voor de Nederlandse Marine, 1683-1996 -> Koninklijke Marine -> Stoom en Motorschepen -> Vliegkampschepen.
Note that an aircraft carrier is a 'vliegkampschip' in dutch, not 'vliegdekschip'.
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Timmy C wrote:Have you thought about just converting the Imperial Hobby Productions plastic kit? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-700-HMS-Colo ... 3825693304?
I am drawing it fully in 3d timothy ;)
New Ships Planned For Shipyard:
USS.Missouri 1.545 scale to new jersey desert combat
Ships in dock:
USS.Saratoga 1.535 scale Desert combat (currently on hold)
Ships in repair:
SMS Tirpitz 1/540 (adding new radars and fixing the main guns)
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Pieter wrote:The 'blurry' drawing (looks good enough for '700 to me though) is from the old French plan service, search for 'service historique arromanches' for better versions.
The post-modernisation Doorman can be found at https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzo ... -3233~3228 .
If the direct link does not work, look at the nationaal archief website -> onderzoeken> bouwtekeningen van schepen voor de Nederlandse Marine, 1683-1996 -> Koninklijke Marine -> Stoom en Motorschepen -> Vliegkampschepen.
Note that an aircraft carrier is a 'vliegkampschip' in dutch, not 'vliegdekschip'.

Thank you!

Blurry image is only bad for the numbers on every section.
New Ships Planned For Shipyard:
USS.Missouri 1.545 scale to new jersey desert combat
Ships in dock:
USS.Saratoga 1.535 scale Desert combat (currently on hold)
Ships in repair:
SMS Tirpitz 1/540 (adding new radars and fixing the main guns)
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Working on Trumpeter's 1/350 Hornet. Island is from Model Monkey with GMM & Eduard PE, Black Cat 3D printed parts, and some good old styrene sheet and brass rod. The island is about ready for gloss coat and weathering.
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Adding the rest of the rails to the hull at the moment.
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Martin, are you portraying Hornet at Santa Cruz? If you are and don't already know this, there are two 20mm mounts at port quarter of hanger deck level. I believe they located near the most forward of the rear set of hanger doors. Not sure if any are located at same location on starboard side. Noticed this when looking at wreck photos.
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Jon C Ryckert wrote:Martin, are you portraying Hornet at Santa Cruz? If you are and don't already know this, there are two 20mm mounts at port quarter of hanger deck level. I believe they located near the most forward of the rear set of hanger doors. Not sure if any are located at same location on starboard side. Noticed this when looking at wreck photos.
Thanks Jon - I did notice that in the wreck photos as well. I'm portraying her at Midway (shoulda mentioned that above).
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Nice to see people are still building aircraft carriers rather than bulk carriers. Love that island.
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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Jon C Ryckert wrote:Martin, are you portraying Hornet at Santa Cruz? If you are and don't already know this, there are two 20mm mounts at port quarter of hanger deck level. I believe they located near the most forward of the rear set of hanger doors. Not sure if any are located at same location on starboard side. Noticed this when looking at wreck photos.
Thanks Jon - I did notice that in the wreck photos as well. I'm portraying her at Midway (shoulda mentioned that above).
Ok. Really enjoy following along as your build progresses. Great work on the camouflage
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Thanks guys. Appreciate the kind words. Helps keeps my plodding along!
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mitchell300 wrote:
Pieter wrote:The 'blurry' drawing (looks good enough for '700 to me though) is from the old French plan service, search for 'service historique arromanches' for better versions.
The post-modernisation Doorman can be found at https://www.nationaalarchief.nl/onderzo ... -3233~3228 .
If the direct link does not work, look at the nationaal archief website -> onderzoeken> bouwtekeningen van schepen voor de Nederlandse Marine, 1683-1996 -> Koninklijke Marine -> Stoom en Motorschepen -> Vliegkampschepen.
Note that an aircraft carrier is a 'vliegkampschip' in dutch, not 'vliegdekschip'.

Thank you!

Blurry image is only bad for the numbers on every section.
Maybe of interest to you: I'm pretty far advanced with a 1:350 model of the 'Karel Doorman'. I have to take a deep breath to complete all the detail work though...
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I'm slowly, racing you Maarten. Better hurry up. I would have loved to discuss this with you in real life this weekend but alas no ESM 2020.
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Howdy all

i bit the bullet today pre ordered
1/700 "HMS Illustrious 1940Deluxe Edition"
Maker: FHM
Item No.#: FH1116S
I havent built a Flyhawk nor a UK carrier but looks a good model,Im not sure of the accuracy but will rely on and appreciate the "experts" here to call out any detail changes required will probably look to purchase additional swordfish - I think Flyhawk do a seperate set. Ive been following all the carrier builds and its all I build only started 6 months ago.

On the slipway all 1700 waterline

Academy CV-6 completed all but airwing, replaced with Flyhawk & starfighter decals
Trump CV-5 about 80% Toms Yorktown PE & starfighter decals
Trump CV-8 about 50% Toms Yorktown PE, Gator paint mask
Dragon CV-19 about 10% waiting for a wooden flight deck havent been able to find one might the the trump version and adjust? Toms Essex PE

On the shelf
Trump CV-63 - Artist Hobby PE & starfighter decals looking for paint mask(flight deck)
Trump LHD 7 on Shelf - looking for PE set, decals & paint mask for flight deck
Fujimi Akaigi Rainbow PE,Fujimi Wood deck& PE,
Fujimi Zuikaku 1941
Fujimi Ryuho

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60's era midway
80-90's Nimitz class - not sure of quality/detail accuracy of Trump versions still researching

Cheers Waz
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Hornet update: Started adding the rafts. Found out that, shockingly, Trumpeter got the number and locations wrong on most of them. Also found they wouldn�t attach, because the PE that represents the center �mesh� portion of the raft is higher then the bottom of the raft. Had to cut small pieces of styrene strip, glue those to the rafts and then use those as attachment points to glue to the hull. First, I added PE paddles to each raft.

When the rafts were done, I added the remaining gun tubs to the deck. Had to rip up a crash barrier as it would have ended up under a tub. That was re-positioned later.

Started putting the PE gun barrels on the 20mm. Very tedious and frustrating process. These L�Arsenal 20mm are difficult to build. And a goodly number of them came out cock-eyed, where the shield drooped when drying. Since I had these versions, I wanted to use them, and not buy 3D printed versions. (The 1.1inch guns are also from L'Arsenal).

Then, I found that the Mk44 directors from Veteran Models won�t fit in the deck edge tubs. The tubs are too small/narrow, as trumpeter incorrectly scaled them for the smaller Mk51 directors. Thankfully, I was chatting with a buddy during the weekend, and he whipped me up a pair of brass replacement tubs that he�s mailing me. Those are scaled to fit the directors.

Everything but ships boats, the island and flight deck crane are attached permanently to the model. Those items need to be weathered - and the masts on the island rigged - before final assembly. Then i have to finish and mount the aircraft. Final step will be painting and adding the crew. So, she�ll be finished in early 2021? Maybe?
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The island is just dry fit here. After these pics were taken, it - along with some other parts - got an light oil wash with Payne's Grey.
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Certainly not my best work, but it's starting to look like Hornet.
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Beautiful work Martin!

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Mark McKinnis wrote:Beautiful work Martin!

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Thanks Mark!

At this point, I�ve wrapped up construction on the ship itself. Still have to give it a once over for any spots that need to be touched up, then blend in the weathering. Next up - finish the TBDs of Torpedo 8, which are test spotted on the flight deck. First I have to the build the torpedoes (each one is turned brass and PE, made by Master Models from Poland). Then, 1/350 figures.
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Next project is lurking in the background...waiting her turn.
Next project is lurking in the background...waiting her turn.
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