I think the diagonal leg of the tripod is supposed to go in, not past, that notched out area and be visible all the way down to the main deck level. I know it's a later fit, and the sister ship, but it's the best shot I can find at the moment: See where the tripod leg ends in this shot of Pennsylvania: http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013839a.jpg
Sean,
If you have Stillwell's book, look at page 163. What I am seeing does not match what you are describing. From what I see, the port leg looks like it would penetrate the upper/forecastle deck just forward of frame #88 just as the drawing from Digital Navy that Tracy posted shows. If you notice, the forward part of the cutout on the boat deck should line up or be forward of frame #88. Now if you follow the angle of the port leg as it goes down another ten or so feet, it would enter the upper/forecastle deck forward of frame #88 which would put it somewhere between 6 -8 feet forward of frame #88 on the main deck. Just my personal observations, Jon
To add to Jon's add, some people refer to the "front" deck as the main deck, which is not the case. The main deck is essentially the lowest deck open to the weather; in Arizona's case this is the area aft of Frame 88. The deck above and forward of that is technically the forecastle deck, even though a forecastle doesn't usually extend that far aft. This was something I mislabeled for a while.
The wood decking looks great! I have one question. With the thickness of the wood strips, what are you doing with the molded on details? Are you making new ones or going around them?
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make good money at it" Red Green
Thank you very much. In fact, I just finished up all the actual planking this past weekend and am now working on the sanding and sealing. I handled the deck fittings in several different ways, some I worked around, some I am raising up to be flush with the wood deck and some I am replacing. The biggest issue in this regard is the foredeck with all the anchor gear. I made a mold of the kit foredeck piece to make cast replacements for the windlass basses and other parts, and then sanded that piece completely smooth. I will post some photos in the near future showing how it all came out.
I'm going to take a stab at the 5-d/5-L paint demarcation. I wonder if this is a way to be able to tell the difference between the ships of the same class, ie, Penn and Ariz when veiwed from small boat, shore or other ship. I am going to use main mast as an example. When looking at W. Virginia and Cali, the 5-L starts just above the searchlight platform while Tenn and Maryland extends all the way up to the bottom of the fighting top. Sinc Cali and Tenn are of the same class and Maryland and W. Virginia are of the same class, one would be able to tell the difference by looking at the main mast since the paint starts and stops at different levels. Now this theory only holds water concerning the main mast of the ships. When looking at the fore tops of the ships present this thoery only works for Oklahoma, Nevada, Penn, Ariz, W. Virginia and Maryland. Cali and Tenn both have the 5-L starting one deck below the range finder platform. Like i said, just a theory but 'maybe' it has some merit.
Sean,
I don't have the foggiest idea as to why they made a trapazoidal platform. I'll give it some thought later tonight when I can look through my Ariz book. One thing that comes to mind is the idea the that positioning of the ships boats has some role in it
That's really odd how the Pennsy and Arizona were modernized in a similar fashion, yet they did things like set the tripod masts at different angles. Were the ships much different to begin with? The only reason I can imagine why they did that would be due to different below-decks layouts that necessitated anchoring the masts in different locations.
Evening to all. Being a landlubber I was looking over Paul Stillwell's book for the 500th time. On page 116 there are two pictures
of President Hoover and Captain Freeman. Why is Captain Freeman wearing what looks like a lifevest and no one else is?
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make good money at it" Red Green
Shannon Storey wrote:Evening to all. Being a landlubber I was looking over Paul Stillwell's book for the 500th time. On page 116 there are two pictures
of President Hoover and Captain Freeman. Why is Captain Freeman wearing what looks like a lifevest and no one else is?
Maybe President Hoover was spouting so much BS about how he was going to get the country out of the Depression that Capt. Freeman felt he needed it.
the little clamps are made with tread diameter 0.25 mm.i drill the hull to glue them.
i d like ti know if my color is correct for the 7 december 1941.because in france other friends say me it s not correct.i am not sure
i will make the portholes with micro crisdtal clear.i drill all
bcbilly
i know the battlebus tour we see them regulary in normandy on the landing beach!!
they works a lot and now in normandy the sun will come and their a lot of tourists and thats good to remenber what the americain and allies they do in normandy, we dont forget .i am regulary too in the region because a have friends who lived at colleville sur mer.i am not so far the landing beach.i think they made the battle of the somme 1916 too ?
are you ever going in normandy ?
bye
stef
Okay, I feel better now. I'm terrible with drilling holes so I wouldn't have attempted something like that. The way you did it looks great.
As for color, as I assume you're aware nobody can agree on what exact color scheme she had on December 7th so you're left with your best guess. For a 5-S Arizona yours looks good, but you might want to check out the pictures of Don Pruel's model at the Arizona Memorial (link on the first post of this thread) for guidance on what parts were 5-S and what were 5-L.
I have one question. With the thickness of the wood strips, what are you doing with the molded on details? Are you making new ones or going around them?
