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by **StevenVD** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:01 pm

Thanks! The base was made to fit in the Trumpeter showcase, but I wanted the models to be maximally visible so I took the covers off.

by **Neptune** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:37 am

Congrats with the price. It came out beautifully and still quite small.
Is that base made for a case later on? or was it removed for the contest/pictures?

by **Iceman 29** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:14 am

Great job!

by **StevenVD** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:24 am

Everybody thanks for the replies. The dio has won bronze at the IPMS Nationals at Waregem last weekend. Some pictures were made by the L'Arsenal crew to illustrate the products they sell on their site.

https://modelbrouwers.nl/phpBB3/viewtop ... 23&t=55212

by **Devin** » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:47 am

This looks outstanding. Your weathering is spot-on. As Marijn said, I hope to see this at SMC next month.

by **Pieter** » Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:33 am

They may have done this at a higher tide than when the picture was taken to get the ships as high as possible on the beach by using their anchor winches. One of the reasons the British developed BARVs was that getting these anchors (and the LSTs) out again proved to be rather difficult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_arm ... ry_vehicle

Neptune wrote:Interesting picture indeed. Seems a variation on Meditterranean mooring, where a ship would moor stern-first to a quay wall and then drop the anhors to stay perpendicular to the wall (in reality, the anchors are dropped first of course)

So mooring the bow of these ships makes sense, I'd assume they also deployed the stern anchor to keep their sterns from crashing into each other.
Why some have deployed the bow anchor remains a mistery though...
The picture is a good idea for your next diorama though

by **marijn van gils** » Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:44 am

You have been busy Steven!

I'm looking forward to seeing this in the flesh at SMC.

by **dhenning** » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:50 pm

Very nice work!

by **Neptune** » Wed Sep 13, 2023 4:58 am

Interesting picture indeed. Seems a variation on Meditterranean mooring, where a ship would moor stern-first to a quay wall and then drop the anhors to stay perpendicular to the wall (in reality, the anchors are dropped first of course)

So mooring the bow of these ships makes sense, I'd assume they also deployed the stern anchor to keep their sterns from crashing into each other.
Why some have deployed the bow anchor remains a mistery though...
The picture is a good idea for your next diorama though

by **StevenVD** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:14 pm

Thanks for the reaction. I found one picture where the LST's take on their load and there are both anchored and unanchored ships, even when there is a quay to moore on. I might have used finer chain, I think I used some from Birmingham in stead.

by **Dan K** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:56 am

Everything is coming along wonderfully.

by **Neptune** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:56 am

Well considering that picture, she was too long on the beach, the tide must have pulled the vessel off, as she looks empty and lonely in the picture.
I do wonder why she dropped it in the first place, perhaps an engine failure with the anchor being dropped to slow her down? Or a standard procedure to avoid being dragged off the beach during unloading?
Are you sure it's actually a chain and not a steel wire in the picture? Sometimes they use steel wire since you can store it on a winch drum without the need for a chain locker. (not allowed for real navigation anchors nowadays)

In any case, I agree with Walter that we're modelmakers, it's not real

by **StevenVD** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:22 pm

StevenVD wrote:

These are the only pictures I had to work with for LST 52, they clearly show the anchor distanced from the hull, even further than I could extend it because of the LCT nearby. Only my latest pictures show that, I had to remove it from the hull when I noticed.

by **Walter Sonderman** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:04 am

Hi, Steven,

nice work again! Agree with Neptune's remark on the anchor. A small detail imho though: we are building models, it is not real

. Had several discussions about that latter remark in the past

.

Cheers, Walter

by **Neptune** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:22 am

Great job, but not sure about that anchor though.
Normally they'd drop the stern anchor to assist in getting off the beach again, but the forward anchor would be strange.
Also, anchors drop straight down, additional chain will just pile up on top of it. The bow of the ship should have shifted to starboard on the beach after dropping the anchor to achieve the layout you have, seems somewhat unlikely.
Most people won't notice though.

If you have pictorial evidence then of course it's a valid detail.

Love the crowded nature of the dio.

by **StevenVD** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:00 am

Thanks, Pieter, I hope to meet you there also with a ship! I made some detail pictures:

by **Pieter** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 5:40 am

Beautiful. I'm looking forward to seeing it in one of those fall events.

by **StevenVD** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:59 pm

After the application of the figures, some pigments were used for the sand part. For the lighter sand yellow and white sand were needed, for the wet part it was Russian Earth.

Then the matt coat was sprayed on the dry part and gloss was brushed on the seascape. After some small repairs of stuff that was blown away, the dio is considered to be finished:

The plexiglass cover is such a perfect fit, that one part of the M26 on the side might get pinched off.

Like that it will be presented on the fall events.

by **StevenVD** » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:52 pm

I had not enough scrap material to fill the flatbeds of the trucks.

But I still had enough L'Arsenal barrels, crates and bags from the Columbia build so some could be spared.

A bit later all the vehicles were glued to the deck. That calls for some pictures.

by **StevenVD** » Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:34 am

Thank you, Mmaresm. The men got a base color with airbrush and a bit of a shadow where possible, but most of it is pencilled on. Rigging is now done with 2 different Van der Rosten threads.

The Infini chain for the front hatch is quite fine. Not as fine as needed, but almost.

The fine thread is hardly visible in single strands.

It takes some fidgeting to apply it to the yardarms and down again.

Thicker thread is used for the tension cables.

Some ropes will follow a bit later in the assembly.

I used some track rust product for aging the hull.

Vallejo Natural Steel paint is applied to the LCVP's with sponge fragments. On the pictures the lower sides are painted rather in a continuous dark color with each a "C" indication. The large ships are treated with green muck and dried salt from a weathering set.

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