PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
That's an interesting article, EJFoeth, thanks!
Could it be that that the LORNA DOONE images were shot with lower shutter speed and that, therefore, the foam patterns overlap. Also it appears, that there is a certain 'burn-out' (overexposure) of the white foam.
And, as always: impressive modelling at this scale!
Could it be that that the LORNA DOONE images were shot with lower shutter speed and that, therefore, the foam patterns overlap. Also it appears, that there is a certain 'burn-out' (overexposure) of the white foam.
And, as always: impressive modelling at this scale!
Eberhard
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Hello gentlemen;
@ Iceman-- a most useful illustration....
scaling the image down to the actual size of the model
it would be tricky to emulate in miniature-; though I agree it
is probably correct...-- ** see @ wefalck below....
@ EJ Foeth.... I downloaded the article,
and read all the words between the pictures - twice...
now my head aches....
@ wefalck I think you may be onto something with the
slower shutter-speed of large format cameras of the era
certainly the amount of white thrash disturbed water in
many of the old images indeed appears slightly blurred
==> anyhow- I like that reasoning ....
for my " artists impression " of the water

@ Iceman-- a most useful illustration....
scaling the image down to the actual size of the model
it would be tricky to emulate in miniature-; though I agree it
is probably correct...-- ** see @ wefalck below....
@ EJ Foeth.... I downloaded the article,
and read all the words between the pictures - twice...
now my head aches....
@ wefalck I think you may be onto something with the
slower shutter-speed of large format cameras of the era
certainly the amount of white thrash disturbed water in
many of the old images indeed appears slightly blurred
==> anyhow- I like that reasoning ....
for my " artists impression " of the water
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Fliger747
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
It was not really possible to pan with the large view cameras of the time (usually 8x10). I have a 4x5 view camera and I would never pan with it! The latitude of the emulsions of the time were not great and foam would probably burn out. Another possibility is that a stationary ship had a "wake" retouched in somewhat crudely by painting the white area on to the emulsion with an opaque retouching material.
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
I have nothing sensible to add to the interesting wake/photography discussion, but I can endorse this statement:

It is great to see her coming together Jim!SG1 wrote:Masterpiece (once again, oh yeah)!
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
The wake article is a bit tongue in cheek, but you're not the first person to worry about paddle wheel wakes! We have surprisingly little information on this subject in our archives, most of of it ancient except this relatively new paper. Of course, nothing beats a few aerial pics and few ships have been so well captured in this regards as the images you've shown here. This vessel creates a wonderfully narrow diverging wave pattern; and then these odd paddle wheels..
And indeed, she's coming along very well!
And indeed, she's coming along very well!
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Hello all!
I have come Full circle again....
no more Macro 90mm foreshortening anymore !
back to basics with a ( new) Canon 50 mm lens on Eos 600D
no wide angle...everything neutral
a couple of pics enccs
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except this one -- shot with workbench camera Lumix T 270
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I have come Full circle again....
no more Macro 90mm foreshortening anymore !
back to basics with a ( new) Canon 50 mm lens on Eos 600D
no wide angle...everything neutral
a couple of pics enccs
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except this one -- shot with workbench camera Lumix T 270
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....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Simply fantastic! What a beautiful little jewel of a model! A true inspiration!

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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Excellent and very inspiring
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Hear hear! Superb work, that shot from the stern is particularly good

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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
very fine model! very inspiring
The water looks excellent and convincing. One day I will try out your method (or a water scape for that matter...)
The water looks excellent and convincing. One day I will try out your method (or a water scape for that matter...)
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
A little jewel sailing towards the Isle of Wight, Jim. 
You've succeeded in making us dream again!
What's next Doc?


You've succeeded in making us dream again!
What's next Doc?
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Hi Jim
Well.... It is another JimB beautiful model!
No need to say anything more, right?
Congrats!
Cheers,
Rui
Well.... It is another JimB beautiful model!
No need to say anything more, right?
Congrats!
Cheers,
Rui
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Wonderful!!!
Congrats on your new beautiful model!!!
Congrats on your new beautiful model!!!
It is better to worm his way in the tail of the professionals than to soar above the kettles.
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Such a beautiful little gem!
The paintjob of thin, contrasting lines along the hull sharpens the appearance to a great extent.
With the passengers and the seascape it is very atmospheric too.
Congrats on creating another masterpiece!
And yes, what's next?
The paintjob of thin, contrasting lines along the hull sharpens the appearance to a great extent.
With the passengers and the seascape it is very atmospheric too.
Congrats on creating another masterpiece!
And yes, what's next?
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Quite evokes the atmosphere of a warm summer day on an excursion steamer 
Eberhard
Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
That's exactly right. Beautifully done, Jim.Quite evokes the atmosphere of a warm summer day on an excursion steamer
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Thank you Gentlemen!
your words of praise are much appreciated.
My next project has been selected ...usual odd ball, scartch built in 1/700
will appear soon!
Jim B
your words of praise are much appreciated.
My next project has been selected ...usual odd ball, scartch built in 1/700
will appear soon!
Jim B
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Beautifully done, Jim! Awesome work on a cool and unique subject, not that I am surprised.
Enlisted men are stupid, but very cunning and deceitful and bear considerable watching." - Marine Corps Officers Manual, 1894
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Re: PS LORNA DOONE ex HMS Atherstone -- 1/700 Paddlesteamer
Great work Jim, another masterpiece!
With your reduced activity here, one would forget who the real master is
So when are you finally retired, so you can spoil us with more of your work ???
With your reduced activity here, one would forget who the real master is
So when are you finally retired, so you can spoil us with more of your work ???
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