Calling all ocean liner SS Normandie fans

[PHILIPPE]

Hello,
I would love a Normandie kit, as this is mostly the sole giant liner which has not been provided in kit yet, when the QEs, QMs, US and France have been.
My prefered scale : 1/350, but as the others I mentioned exist in 1/600, I would be also satisfied by a 1/600 of it.

[JIM BAUMANN]

Well this is all rather more constructive ...!

I have some nice plans of Normandie-- allegedly they tell the absolute truth...(??) ( does anything ever....?_!?

I plan to build the( dimensionally ok but somewhat primitive!) OLM resin kit with some custom made PE window overlays which should give the promenade windows the delicacy they deserve...

Meanwhile..

The ( challenging! ) task of building a 1/600 scale |Normandie has already been undertaken by Patrick Camillieri of Malta--here at MW.com

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=42959

with the finished shipmodel pics here
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

her are some nice views of Normandie

Perhaps we can start a thread in the CASF section collecting and collating Normandie information and any changes that were underatken during her albeit brief career?

JIM B

[Joachim]

Hello Jim!

Thanks for posting these pics, I can�t get enough from Normandie... Such amazing beauty!

They seem to be taken at the maiden voyage, don�t they? Because of the black beeing peeled off by the Atlantic?

Best regards from rainy Dortmund

Joachim

[matdark]

Here are some pictures of my (unfinished at the time) 1/192 scratchbuilt Normandie

[Guest]

im gonna start a 1/200 scale of the normandy ....i have just completed the titanic in the same scale as a r/c ship its 5.and half ft long, made of fiber glas and auto bady filler it wieghs nearly 40 lbs, the normandy will be about 6 ft long thats big for me as my car cant handle anything bigger than thats...lol i want to build a few famous ships the ss united states is planned fore after the normandy all of my ships are gonna be 1/200 scale

[Guest]

yeah i have just laid out the keel for the fiberglas mould of the Normandy its getting done in( 1/160 scale N scale) the total length of the model R/C ship is 6,5 ft long 9 inches wide and over 14 inches tall should be fun to build i was gonna make 2 or 3 possibly from the same mould and possibly sell the 2 other hulls if anyones interested in a ship model that big i have a titanic fiberglas hulled ship almost finished its 5.5 ft tall and is powered by 3 540 motors it ill get pics of it later. any advise on the ship building process and or feed back on making extra hull's would be appreciated.

[vladimir yakubov]

Bunch of photos of Normandie from Life magazine after its sinking and after it was raised:
http://images.google.com/search?q=norma ... 00&bih=678

[ijnfleetadmiral]

Normandie isn't the only big liner that hasn't had a kit released of her yet. We can also hope for kits of the following:

Deutschland / Victoria Luise / Hansa, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kronprinz Wilhelm, Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, & Kronprinzessin Cecilie
RMS Oceanic (1899)
France (1912)
Imperator / Berengaria, Vaterland / Leviathan, & Bismarck / Majestic
RMS Aquitania
Paris
Ile de France
Bremen & Europa
Rex & Conte di Savoia
Asama Maru, Tatsuta Maru, & Chichibu / Kamakura Maru (surprised these aren't yet part of the Waterline Series; they released the Taiyo-class CVEs as pre-war liners)
Andrea Doria, Cristoforo Colombo, & Leonardo da Vinci
Michelangelo & Raffaello

[johnnymoretti]

Hello all,

I'm new to this forum (this is my first post!) and I wanted to let those of you know that I have a vintage 1:20 scale scratch built SS REX ocean liner. It was built in the 1940s by an Italian builder, M. Capurso. I don't have much provenance on this fine ship, but if anyone is interested, please email me. I also have it on ebay. Open to offers.

Thanks!

More photos at http://johnmoretti.com/ssrex/

John

[Steve]

Admiralty has announced a 700 scale kit on Cybermodeler. Alas no photos and there is apparently a minimum number of orders needed before the kit will be produced.

[D-Boy]

Admiralty has announced a 700 scale kit on Cybermodeler. Alas no photos and there is apparently a minimum number of orders needed before the kit will be produced.

First photos here: http://www.freetimehobbies.com/1-700-ad ... chairs-pe/

WL or full-hull options. Two referenced PE kits, one for deck chairs.

Freetime product description:

"The kit is waterline, but a Lower Hull is available as an added option. The kit is as the Normandie appeared on her maiden voyage in 1935, and is around 18� (448.6 mm) long, has Brass tapered masts, Photo-etch and decals. There will be a small bonus inside consisting of a Normandie Crest.

There are some added items that can be also ordered, a Cold Cast Bronze Medallion Replica as given to the maiden voyage first class passengers and a set of deck chairs in photo etch."

Kit is available for pre-order for $195 in WL format. $25 additional for lower hull. $15.00 for deck chairs PE.

[mitchell adams]

Does anyone have an idea as to how I can obtain scale plans for Normandie ?

[Propman]

I had a set from Taubman plan which was taken over buy Loyalhanna Dockyard. I think he still has them. They are not the best but are pretty good. At least my hull turned out pretty good with those plans and you'll need a lot of photos and other info to help.

Keith

[Iceman 29]

Normandie is a Compagnie G�n�rale Transatlantique transatlantic liner built by the Chantiers de Penho�t (now Chantiers de l'Atlantique) in Saint-Nazaire from 1931 and registered at the Port Autonome du Havre in 1935.





The project was launched in 1926, in close collaboration with the French government, as part of the obligations of the 1912 postal convention4 and as a continuation of the liners France, Paris and �le-de-France. The aim of the project was to provide France with a ship that was both large and fast. Work began on 26 January 1931 in Saint-Nazaire4, when the hull was named T6. The Great Depression slowed construction and the liner did not enter service until 1935.





When she entered commercial service, Normandie was the largest ocean liner in the world. Her maiden voyage was a major media event, covered in full by the French and international press. The ship was a complete success. It smashed the record for crossing the Atlantic and conferred immense prestige on France. Modifications were made in 1936 before the luxury liner entered into competition with its English rival, Queen Mary. The battle for the Blue Ribbon lasted two years and attracted worldwide attention.

Normandie's commercial career was marked by immense popularity with celebrities and extensive media coverage of her voyages. The liner was widely used by the French government for national propaganda purposes, telling the world that Normandie was the epitome of 1930s France.

However, Normandie's career was interrupted by the Second World War. The liner was decommissioned and remained docked in New York harbour. At the end of 1941, she was requisitioned by the United States and renamed USS Lafayette, to be converted into a fast troop transport. A supposedly accidental fire broke out during work on the ship in 1942. The tonnes of water used by the fire brigade caused the ship to capsize under the effect of the tide. After the war, France refused to recover the ravaged hull. The hull, reduced to a wreck, was demolished until October 1947.

Despite the brevity of her career (4 years), Normandie left a deep imprint on the world's memory. She is considered to be the most successful ocean liner in history. Her particularly sumptuous facilities mean that she is still considered to be the most beautiful and luxurious liner ever built. A true symbol of France's savoir-faire and art of living, its history is intimately linked to that of France in the 1930s. Appearing in a number of films, Normandie established an image of modernity and power that has long been associated with her era. Its decorative elements, dismantled and disembarked before the conversion work, have been placed in museums and private collections around the world. (Wiki fr).

Normandie
Other names T6 (construction)
Lafayette (1942 - 1946)
Type Transatlantic liner

History
Shipyard Chantiers de Penho�t, Saint-Nazaire
Keel laid 26 January 1931
Launched 29 October 1932
Commissioned 29 May 1935
Status Burnt down in 1942
Demolished in October 1946

Crew
Crew 1 345

Technical specifications
Length 313.75 m
Main beam 36.40 m
Draught 11.20 m
Displacement 70,171 t
Deadweight 14,420 t
Tonnage 79,280 grt (1935)
82,799 grt (1936)
83,423 grt (1937)

Steam propulsion, turbo-electric. 29 Penho�t water-tube boilers, four steam turbine - three-phase alternator sets (6000 V 81 Hz), four synchronous electric motors
Power 160,000 hp

Speed 32.2 knots

Commercial specifications
Deck 12
Passengers 1 9712

Career
Shipowner Compagnie g�n�rale transatlantique (1935-1941)

US Navy (1941-1946)

Flag
France (1935-1941)
United States flag (1941-1946)

Home port Le Havre
Cost 860 million francs

[Iceman 29]

Roger Schall, the Normandie:

The brief epic of the Normandie, interrupted by the Second World War, was chronicled by French photojournalist Roger Schall.

With Blaise Cendrars in 1935, Roger Schall covered the construction of the Normandie and boarded her for the inaugural voyage.

A fashion photographer, his photos were published in a number of magazines, including Vogue and Marie-Claire, and he took several portraits of Gabrielle Chanel.

He retired in 1970, but was succeeded by his son.
Schall left a collection of over 80,000 photographs.



Blaise Cendrars


Saint-Nazaire.






Le Havre, Quai Jouennes Couvert. The maritime station.




At sea:




The dining room.




Arrival in NY:

[Iceman 29]

https://youtu.be/5jdrDj1sm_w


https://youtu.be/PhYQgoOPm3o








"More fear than harm."



On 22 June 1936, an unusual accident occurred on the Normandie, during the return crossing to Le Havre. The circumstances of this misadventure are recounted in the newspaper "Le Temps" of 23 July 1936:
"Lieutenant aviator Guy Kennedy Horsey, who appeared again before the council of war, recounted how after having thrown his torpedo during the exercises he was carrying out, he felt himself drawn towards the liner Normandie. He saw the French liner coming towards him and hoped until the last moment that he would be able to avoid it, but he hit a cable that tore the wing off his aircraft and turned it around. He then felt himself fall to the deck, but doesn't remember anything else."

The aviator's testimony in the same newspaper:
"After the plane had fallen to the deck, and when the crew of the liner Normandie had satisfied themselves that the plane would not catch fire, they ran up to me, shook my hands, and congratulated me with many cheers."

The aircraft, a Blackburn Baffin, moored as best it could to the Normandie's forecastle. On the right is a 1936 Packard V12. Photo from a private collection.



The aircraft made the rest of the crossing in this unfortunate position, as the ship did not have the mechanical means to remove it. It was only at Le Havre that it could be disembarked from its uncomfortable position.



More here: http://havraisdire2.canalblog.com/archi ... 46786.html

These photos come from the Drouot catalogue, these copies of original plans were sold at auction in 2018.

https://www.gazette-drouot.com/en/lots/8649697

[Iceman 29]

An exceptional website from a Normandy enthusiast, with a wealth of documents:

https://www-paquebot--normandie-net.tra ... r_pto=wapp



There are two very complete pages not listed in the site menu concerning propellers and their manufacture, fascinating:

https://www-paquebot--normandie-net.tra ... r_pto=wapp

https://www-paquebot--normandie-net.tra ... r_pto=wapp

Wooden propeller master:

[Iceman 29]

[Iceman 29]

"In front of a crowd of 200,000 for the launch of the liner NORMANDIE, President Albert LEBRUN inaugurates the most beautiful liner in the world."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xjyvrNNGE

[Iceman 29]

Normandie 1/50 model, exposed in the Le Havre town hall, France.