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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:47 pm 
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Rick_H wrote:
yes, that is the shape of the stern that I'm referring to. That drawing is a Canadian ship, since the raised bandstand for the 2pdr gun is at the after end of the deckhouse.

I'm asking if that stern shape was used on any British Flower?
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Short answer - yes.

As you are no doubt aware Flowers can differ almost from ship to ship, and so it can be hard to pin down details for specific ships without photo ref, however if you look at what are known as the "modified Flowers" these appear to all have the wider stern (and the bandstand to the rear as you mentioned).

My ref suggests there were 11 British and 48 Canadian modified Flowers. Possibly the following, as I'm nowhere near being an expert on all the subtle differences between ships.
HMS Charlock
HMS Balsam
HMS Potentilla
HMS Burnet
HMS Charlock

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:08 pm 
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Thanks. Agreed that those are from the Canadian "Modified Flower" group, with the 2pdr bandstand aft.

I'm wondering about British earlier ships, outfitted for oropesa minesweeping, with the greater amount of eqpt on the fantail. (as opposed to the ships outfitted for magnetic minesweeping, which only required a reel for a single line out the centerline)

I'm starting to get the impression that the Canadian ships had the squared stern, which coincidentally provided more working space. And the British ships, when fitted for minesweeping, had to make do with the smaller area available with the British rounded stern.

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Lambert & Brown - "In 1940 approval was given for 24 to be fitted for Oropesa wire minesweeping, with steam winches aft. A further 8 (later 16) were to be fitted with LL sweeps stowed on large reels for dealing with magnetic mines."

I would assume all 24 Oropesa ships had the rounded stern.

A quick search shows the following with Oropesa gear
Aubretia
Abelia
Gloxinia
Alisma
Zinnia
Orchis
Heather

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