While the record on the Funnel Bands might be incomplete, and that of the Administrative Hiragana (or is it Katakana?) not firmly adhered to, where might I find that which we do know (and that which is suspected, and so on) of each?
AFAIK, no one has ever fully documented the funnel band changes. I certainly haven't. Too much is unknown.
at least 3 or 4 different degaussing patterns
That we know of. The photo record is woefully incomplete. There aren't even photos of all 19 Kageros. So, the same hurdle remains for the tertiary piping, though there are more commissioning/trials photos of the ships. I think that at least 12 Kageros have photos that can ID this arrangement on funnel #1.
Continuing my research on Yukikaze and before I take my sanding sticks and my strips of Tamiya 0,1mm Plastic Paper to replicate the alternating longitudinal bands to replicate the hull plating, I have to ask my last (?) question of this issue.
I have as my guide Kagero�s Publications 3D plans for IJN Kagero plus photos of the new Pit-Road / Flyhawk 1/700 Yukikaze. They both clearly depict on the ship�s stern, 3 rows of longitudinal bands replicating hull plating above waterline. On the other hand my 1/350 Tamiya kit has 2 rows of longitudinal bands replicating hull plating above waterline.
Dan � any thoughts, Sir?
I can�t make my mind studying photos of the real vessel. Sometimes I �see� 3 rows and other times I �see� 2 rows�
In the end I will choose a path and stick to it� The only reason I make this question is to make sure that there is nothing major I am missing on the ship�s history.
I am NOT going to �count any more rivets� on this issue, but if you have any thoughts on this, I would be grateful to read them.
Thank you All and be safe.
Paris
Currently building my very first 1/350 model ship Tamiya IJN Yukikaze
I am NOT going to �count any more rivets� on this issue
I'll bet. Should I hold my breath on this?
Factually, there appear to be 3 bands of plating, BUT the waterline divides the bottom band in half. So, technically, there are two and a half bands above the waterline mark. See below.
The actual end point of Yukikaze's stern in the photo below is just a few feet further to the right and out of view.
Akishimo is a following Yugumo class ship, but the hulls are essentially the same, save for the inclined stern of the Yugumo type. It's pretty clear.
I am NOT going to �count any more rivets� on this issue
I'll bet. Should I hold my breath on this?
Factually, there appear to be 3 bands of plating, BUT the waterline divides the bottom band in half. So, technically, there are two and a half bands above the waterline mark. See below.
The actual end point of Yukikaze's stern in the photo below is just a few feet further to the right and out of view.
Akishimo is a following Yugumo class ship, but the hulls are essentially the same, save for the inclined stern of the Yugumo type. It's pretty clear.
I just noticed something about Degaussing Cables in the first photo:
Shiranuhi in Maizuru Drydock, 9-1942
The Degaussing Cable here looks to have a �cover� of some sort over it.
While I have seen other photos where the cables are exposed (even on the little Sub-Chasers I am now trying to re-build after a catastrophe with the maid and then flooding � Ironic that ships would be harmed by flooding, even if just models), I have noticed on IJN and Allied Ships that some have what appears to be a cover over the DeGaussing Cable.
Do you know anything about this, and why some look to have a cover (or have a cover in actuality) and some just show the exposed cables with brackets attached directly over the cables?
MB
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1/700 (All Fall 1942):
HIJMS Nagara
HIJMS Aoba & Kinugasa
USS San Francisco
USS Helena
USS St. Louis
USS Laffey & Farenholt
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 4 - 7
HIJMS Sub-Chasers No. 13 - 16
Do you know anything about this, and why some look to have a cover (or have a cover in actuality) and some just show the exposed cables with brackets attached directly over the cables?
Well, I'm aware of the practice, but I'm not sure why a box cover was used in some circumstances, and not in others. I suspect that the idea was to provide some protection against sea action, weather, and possibly shell splinters. I think that as the war dragged on, and material shortages loomed, there was less of an inclination to use the enclosure.
This is not a certainty. There are photos of various DDs early in the war either without a cover, or showing a mix of cable in which some, but not all, is exposed. Like the one of Asashio below.
Hello Dan K, I'm just wondering do you have a diagram or something similar that shows the types of vents on IJN destroyers? I just bought the 1/700 Waterline series Ten-go set which includes 3 Kagero class, 2 Akizuki class Hatsushimo, Asashimo and Kasumi destroyers. I'm trying to research about it so I can replace it with 3D prints, maybe from Five-star/Hobby Seed, Rainbow or YX models in the future. Your reply will be greatly appreciated.
A good question with no good answer. There is no single guide to the vents on the DDs (or any other class of ship) that I am aware of. A combination of plans and photos is the only way to determine what went where. And, there were additional vents/intakes on some bulkheads.
That said, the Gran Prix Shuppan volume on on IJN DDs illustrates four different types for DDs, but no sizing is included.
Dan K wrote:A good question with no good answer. There is no single guide to the vents on the DDs (or any other class of ship) that I am aware of. A combination of plans and photos is the only way to determine what went where. And, there were additional vents/intakes on some bulkheads.
That said, the Gran Prix Shuppan volume on on IJN DDs illustrates four different types for DDs, but no sizing is included.
Thank you for your effort to answer my question Dan. I guess I have to dig more somewhere else. Maybe 1/350 scale instructions from hobbysearch might help. The details of the 1/700 scale kits are very vague so 3D printing technology is really Godsend.
Oh another one Dan, I also wondering do you have some line drawings of IJN Yukikaze during her repatriation duties? I'll attempt to make one on that configuration. I currently have a duplicate Aoshima Yukikaze and a Pit-road Yukikaze with plenty of extra decals including she used during her repatriation duty. The only ones I see from the internet is one b&w picture of it's starboard side and it's hard to eyeball it.
Yes I've seen this before. I think the first one is Yukikaze after her repatriation duty. The second one is Dan Yang retaining some Japanese weapons and the third is Dan Yang with American weapons am I right?
As usual thank you Dan for your efforts but unfortunately we're still clueless what is Yukikaze repatriation ship looks like from top angle. I guess I have to speculate how wide are those box structures added.
You're welcome. I've never seen a photo of Yukikaze in repatriation fit from overhead. Looking at the available photos, I doubt that the temporary housing structures were much wider than the turrets/ TT mounts/ regular superstructures. FWIW.
