Calling all Allen M. Sumner-class & Gearing-class DD fans

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PMD724
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Re: Calling all Allen M. Sumner and Gearing class DD fans

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Would 90ft be about right for mast?
Now confused. Found another place says 30ft.
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Re: Calling all Allen M. Sumner and Gearing class DD fans

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height of mast from what part of the ship, main deck, waterline & bottom of keel? top of which smoke stack, forward of aft?
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Re: Calling all Allen M. Sumner and Gearing class DD fans

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From top deck by bridge.
For lack of knowing proper name the same deck as smokestacks is attached. I'm building a model of the USS Laffey DD-724. I made one many years ago out of match sticks which was ok. Now wanting to make a better, more accurate one but hard to get good pics of the Laffey and dimensions. What I found, the mast would be 90 ft at that point. Sound, right? Making it with wood.
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Re: Calling all Allen M. Sumner-class & Gearing-class DD fans

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All:

Triumph Model will be releasing a 1/350 kit of DD-692 USS Allen Sumner with resin, 3D printed, and PE components. It looks marvelous, but I am wondering about the accuracy of the bridge area. Allen Sumner was initially built with a British-style bridge, but if you look at this build of the kit, there are two bulkheads that run fore to aft just inside the bridge wings and outside the Mk. 37 director platform that terminate toward the aft end of the bridge with D-shaped tubs surrounding what might be a large mounted naval binocular. I can't find any plans or photos that show the bulkheads and tubs. Is this correct? And for those who know this class well, does the model look accurate?

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Any insights would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: Calling all Allen M. Sumner-class & Gearing-class DD fans

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The config is similar to that of the very earliest completed ships, but still has inaccuracies. As first designed, there was a narrow upper open bridge behind the pilothouse, and there were bridge wings at pilothouse level. But the narrow upper open bridge was about a half deck level higher than the pilothouse and bridge wings. The bulkheads you reference on the kit seem to be slightly too close to the centerline and don't seem to form the boundary between different levels. When the original bridge design proved to be too cramped, the bridge wings were essentially raised to the upper bridge level with the dividing bulkheads eliminated. This change proved to be insufficient, and so the bridge was totally redesigned into the late war config with an open bridge around the front of the relocated pilothouse. Most Sumners and all of the wartime Gearings completed to this last config.
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