Calling all Iowa-class (BB-61) fans

[Govert]

Guys,

I have painted the hull in a primer.
I am glad it worked out fine, it was the first time I used my airbrush.

I have the following problem right now:

Because of the sanding I lost the marking lines for painting the waterline.
Is there someone that can give me the dimensions for these lines out from the bottom.

It is a scale 1/350 tamiya Missouri.

Thanks,

Govert

[Tony Bunch]

Hi Guys,
Govert,
From the baseline to the lower boot topping line is 1.060", and to the upper boot topping line 1.260". This was done by using a dial caliper and setting the hull on a table top. I checked no less than three times.

Maybe someone else can verify.
Hope this help, Tony

[Govert]

Tony,

Thanks a lot, if I didn't have you I would be lost.

Thanks,

Greets,

Govert

[EJM]

Just curious, but has anyone ever found a use for the tiny 16" shells (Part B4) in the 1/350 Tamiya USS Missouri kit? If so, what did you use them for? What colors are they supposed to be painted?

[Tony Bunch]

Hi Guys,
EJM,
I have never used these parts, but I have two between my Missouri and my New Jersey kits.
Mostly green in color, and from there it depended upon the projectiles .
designation, HC hi capacity, AP armor piercing, or "special".

The green shells are HC and the blue ones are dummies.
Tony

[ModelMonkey]

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[EJM]

Hmmm. Looks like the post I made yesterday didn't make it over when the forum was being switched. Oh well. I'll just write it again.

Anyway, in this sample pic shown below, you can see on the right side of the 20mm gallery wall (on the outside) what looks like a tube angled at 45 degrees. What are these? What was the purpose of them? Did all 20mm stations have them, and how many per station? Were they mostly located on the insides of the armored walls, on the outsides, or on the sides of the galleries? Whatever they were, I'd like to add these details to the 20mm stations on the Montana ship I'm detailing.

[Thomas E. Johnson]

Hmmm. Looks like the post I made yesterday didn't make it over when the forum was being switched. Oh well. I'll just write it again.

Anyway, in this sample pic shown below, you can see on the right side of the 20mm gallery wall (on the outside) what looks like a tube angled at 45 degrees. What are these? What was the purpose of them? Did all 20mm stations have them, and how many per station? Were they mostly located on the insides of the armored walls, on the outsides, or on the sides of the galleries? Whatever they were, I'd like to add these details to the 20mm stations on the Montana ship I'm detailing.
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/Ste ... an0001.jpg

A flare launcher perhaps?????

[GTDEATH13]

Hmmm. Looks like the post I made yesterday didn't make it over when the forum was being switched. Oh well. I'll just write it again.

Anyway, in this sample pic shown below, you can see on the right side of the 20mm gallery wall (on the outside) what looks like a tube angled at 45 degrees. What are these? What was the purpose of them? Did all 20mm stations have them, and how many per station? Were they mostly located on the insides of the armored walls, on the outsides, or on the sides of the galleries? Whatever they were, I'd like to add these details to the 20mm stations on the Montana ship I'm detailing.

I noticed in Paul Stillwell's book about the Mighty Mo that they used the area for of the 20mm gun enplacemet for hoisting gangways down. Also if you notice the model's picture there is a sheet of metal welded to the side as if something touches or grasps from it. The thing you are asking about is propably a base for installing the hoist hoisting the end of the gangway at the side of the ship near the surface of the sea. And if you notice there are hoists attached to the bulkhead aft of the gun enplacement on the main deck.
I cannot find a better reason for that piece of pipe being there than that.

[Seeling]

I am not certain what you are noting in the picture but I have seen pics and models with two tubes near the 20mm battery you are noting and also near most other 20mm guns in several different pictures. One location I recall includes the bow 20mm guns (USS Iowa Warships Data Book #3 on page 14). I cannot recall the source but I recall reading that these were cooling tubes for the barrels. I will dig to see if I can confirm this. I am assuming they would get hot after heavy use and they were maybe changed out with a second set of barrels (just a guess). Anyone know for sure?

Thank-
Seeling

[Seeling]

Hi all-
I just read the caption on the USS Iowa Warships Data #3 book on page 15 again. It notes "The pipes leaning outboard on the forward side of the tub are for cooling 20 mm barrels." This is for the picture in the lower right corner of the page and relates to the 2 x 20mm guns on the bow. These are also visable in Summrall's book "Iowa Class Battleships" on the shields for the 3 x 20mm guns near the #2 gun turret on page 90 and page 109 also on the tub for the 20mm on top of the #2 turret of the Iowa. Anyone confirm is this is the use of the angled tubes?
Seeling

[James M]

Yes, those tubes are for holding a spare barrel or cooling them when they got to hot.
Also the little triangle plates right by the tube are the tensioning racks for the magazines.
There are also 40mm spare barrels all over the ship. On the Iowa�s these were stored inside the ship strapped against the bulkheads near the mounts. Smaller ship usually had them stored in spare barrel lockers that look a lot like a ready use ammo locker but a little longer.
Hope this helps.

James

[EJM]

Hi all-
I just read the caption on the USS Iowa Warships Data #3 book on page 15 again. It notes "The pipes leaning outboard on the forward side of the tub are for cooling 20 mm barrels." This is for the picture in the lower right corner of the page and relates to the 2 x 20mm guns on the bow. These are also visable in Summrall's book "Iowa Class Battleships" on the shields for the 3 x 20mm guns near the #2 gun turret on page 90 and page 109 also on the tub for the 20mm on top of the #2 turret of the Iowa. Anyone confirm is this is the use of the angled tubes?
Seeling

Yes, those tubes are for holding a spare barrel or cooling them when they got to hot.
Also the little triangle plates right by the tube are the tensioning racks for the magazines.
There are also 40mm spare barrels all over the ship. On the Iowa�s these were stored inside the ship strapped against the bulkheads near the mounts. Smaller ship usually had them stored in spare barrel lockers that look a lot like a ready use ammo locker but a little longer.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the help, guys. I'll see what I've got left for thin plastic rod and then add these tubes around the ship.

[chuck]

Has anyone tried to modify Tamiya's 1/350 Missouri so that it more accurately reproduce Iowa class's distinctive bow shape? Tamiya got the bow shape pretty close in profile. But it looks pretty far off in 3 D when one compare it to photograph of the ship being launched. The bulbous forefoot is too wide and does not tapper upward towards the waterline as quickly as it should. There should be a long razor sharp cutwater that extends a considerable distance above and below the waterline. The bulb that supports the small AA platform at the bow is also too wide and too blunt.

[Tony Bunch]

Hi Guys,
Hi Chuck,
I have!
I sanded away at the hull sides, (at the bow), until I went through!
I only had a combined total of about .070" to remove, so I had to tell myself that it made a difference. Yes indeed, Tamiya's 1/350 Iowas both old and new suffer from, "blunt nose syndrome". I took a picture of the 1/350 bow looking down and compared it to a picture of the 1/700 Tamiya Missouri showing the same size images side by side. Oh you sure can see a difference! Too bad Tamiya's 1/700 Missouri won't be panagraphed up to 1/350! This would be a perfect starting point for a beautiful 1/350 Iowa class build!
That was my condensed answer. Do you want to hear my short answer? Yes.
I think I posted some before and after sanding shots somewhere on this thread. Timewise, it would have been since 04/2006 I'd say.
Tony

[chuck]

I was thinking about cutting the 2 inches of bow completely off and building it back up again as a new solid shape made out of stacked styrene cards.

[Tracy White]

It's almost too bad that one of the Iowas didn't have a bow collapse like Washington... you could have just whacked the thing off and done a diorama of that insstead

[Tony Bunch]

Hi Guys,
Well...........Wisconsin comes to mind..........
She ended up with the unused bow from one of her ne-er to be born younger sisters!
Dude!
Tony

[medic2213]

fellow iowa fans were or what can i use to make the pully for the unrep hose for bb62

[Thomas E. Johnson]

fellow iowa fans were or what can i use to make the pully for the unrep hose for bb62

Don't know about the pully, but I made the hose out if some thin solder.