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What wonderful photos!!!

These come courtesy of David Christy, the son of R. Jack Christy, Jr. AO3C USN, USS Absecon 1944-1946.

With one of these photos, I am having to reposition the cranes on my model. Luckily, this has been easier than I had feared.

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NukeMM wrote:I thought that these shots turned out rather realistic looking and had to share them, here.......

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That sure fooled me Carl, I was scrolling down and hadn't read your comments yet and thought that was a real picture, honest! Excellent photography work.

And those actual pictures you posted of the ship with the catapult are really cool too.
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The really neat thing is the "sunlight" reflected off the "water" onto the hull. That and B&W mode, which would be appropriate for the era modeled, is what takes it from a photo of a diorama to a newly discovered ww2 photo.

From a photography standpoint, the "reflection" indicates excellent light source and camera placement. Play with depth of field and resolution to further enhance period characteristics, then sent a print to NH&HC claiming to have located an old negative and see if they slap a number on it.
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The builtup of Abescon at the IPMS invitational outside Madison, WI, 7 May 2011 was great.

Sadly, no name on the card...IPMS rules....

Kudos to the buiilder!
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James Hood wrote:The builtup of Abescon at the IPMS invitational outside Madison, WI, 7 May 2011 was great.

Sadly, no name on the card...IPMS rules....

Kudos to the buiilder!
James,

Was it this model? Was it full hull? Then it was most likely Richard Sliwka's model. Madison is a long ways from his home around KC, though.

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Here is a new photo of the USS Absecon. I hired some one to get this one from the National Archives, for me. I was hoping that it was going to be of the starboard side. But, this will due, for sure.

A high resolution image is posted here:

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With this photo, you could calculate the exact measurements of the pick-up sled.
I'd love to know what the story was with the plane on the stern
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Russ2146 wrote:With this photo, you could calculate the exact measurements of the pick-up sled.
I'd love to know what the story was with the plane on the stern
Russ,

My retrieval sled looks too, small, doesn't it?

The plane on the fantail looks to be in pieces. It may have been one of the several capsized aircraft that was able to be retrieved and brought aboard.

I also noticed that there actually were portholes along the forward main deck. The micro film reels' General Arrrangement and Compartment Access drawings do not depict these portholes. I thought that it was odd there were only 5 portholes on the drawings, besides the bridge windows.

When I thought that my model was more accurate, it actually isn't. I'll have to add some portholes, I guess.
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I didn't think it was small until this.
You have a better idea of the actual distance between the 01 deck support stantions. I'd work off of that known distance.

Its also a nice housekeeping photo. 'Standby to air bedding.'
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NukeMM wrote:
James Hood wrote:The builtup of Abescon at the IPMS invitational outside Madison, WI, 7 May 2011 was great.

Sadly, no name on the card...IPMS rules....

Kudos to the buiilder!
James,

Was it this model? Was it full hull? Then it was most likely Richard Sliwka's model. Madison is a long ways from his home around KC, though.

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
I recieved an email from Richard Sliwka, today. He was, indeed, at the Madison, WI model show. He didn't mention if his USS Absecon won an award but, his USS O'Bannon won First Place in Ships and his USS Baltimore won Best of Show.

Kudos to Richard and well done!
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Carl you had me fooled for a bit on the B&W pics.
The water reflection sucked me in, but the canvas tarps on the PT's from earlier posts made me say "hey wait a minute...."
Phenominal build and excellant pics.

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A big "Thank you!" goes to Harold Abbott at Battlefleet Models for these resin copies of my custom AVP parts.

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I visited Harry at his workshop, this past weekend, and watched the master at work. Any flaws in these parts is because of my craftmanship, alone. They are exact, crisp, and clean replicas of the masters that I supplied to him. Harry is making ten sets of parts, for me, and because he showed me how to do it and what materials and equipment to use, I'll be able to cast these parts in the future, for myself. I had a good Teacher.

Thanks again, Harry! :thanks: :good_job:
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Mother and I always enjoy your visits. We get to see your models in real time. And what great models they are!!!!

It was a pleasure showing you how to prepare and mold resin parts.

See you soon in Omaha.

Good luck with your casting!!!

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Here's a photo I stumbled upon in a disk of images I was given. Thought you might like it, Carl...
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Martin, The Barnegat Underground thanks you.

Here's a picture of her in Oct 1944. Note difference.
You might want tosend a copy to Navsource. The photos available heretofor have not shown her with Mount 52
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MartinJQuinn wrote:Here's a photo I stumbled upon in a disk of images I was given. Thought you might like it, Carl...
Thanks a lot, Martin!

I haven't seen this image, before, and I think that it is a new camo pattern that I haven't seen for this class of ships.

If you can, please forward your original image to Navsource.org. It isn't there, now.

Thanks, again! :thanks:
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Carl, That looks like Measure 32 Design 5D
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Russ2146 wrote:Carl, That looks like Measure 32 Design 5D
I see three colors in the photo and the drawing that I see for Measure 32 - 5D only indicates two.

That's why I say that it is a new one, to me, as far as AVPs go.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/imag ... 66240c.htm
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I agree that there are three colors but it looks like an incomplete repaint.
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Here's a link to a pretty good photo of a retreaval;

http://mysite.verizon.net/resttsdu/site ... _1200x.jpg

From the Mighty Ninety web site of the USS Astoria.

http://www.mighty90.com/

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