Calling all USS Enterprise CV-6 fans

[Guest]

Thanks for the help, guys! Much appreciated.

[angeleyes]

Hi everyone.I have downloaded a ton of pictures for a 44 Enterprise which i will have to make out from a Trumpy Hornet in 1/350 but i think i ll need a good set of plans also , as it is difficult from pictures alone to judge the size and positioning of the many small changes .Anyone knows were i can get a good set of plans so i can build the Enterprise in the 44 dazzle scheme version?

[rtwpsom2]

The best set available is the Maryland Silver set.

[pbudzik]

The Floating Drydock set is very nice and it covers the fit that you are doing. If it were me, I'd start with these before laying out the big bucks for the Maryland Silver book. I think you will find them very complete. Take them down and have them scanned so you can resize them to 1/350. More than enough information, especially when you start seeing how far off the kit is, and I don't just mean the hull. I'm working on the hanger deck right now and I can tell you that the kit sides are pretty crude and way too tall.

Paul

[JTninja]

I also used these for reference for my 1/700 '44 CV-6

http://www.steelnavy.com/EnterpriseCV6NMNA.htm

Let us know if you have any questions about the changes.

[Michael Vorrasi]

Hi everyone.I have downloaded a ton of pictures for a 44 Enterprise which i will have to make out from a Trumpy Hornet in 1/350 but i think i ll need a good set of plans also , as it is difficult from pictures alone to judge the size and positioning of the many small changes .Anyone knows were i can get a good set of plans so i can build the Enterprise in the 44 dazzle scheme version?

The Floating Drydock has the best post 10/43 plans available. Maryland Silver set is extensive, but it is original configuration.

[Spacecraftfilms]

This probably a dumb question, but I've been through the forum and and all over looking for an answer. On top of the Enterprise pilot house (mid-1942) there's what looks like a small gun director, it is forward of the forward Mk33 director and looks like a smaller version. It looks just like a gun director, but I can't match it to anything. Looks to me to be a rangefinder of some sort. Anyone know what this is?

[Michael Vorrasi]

This probably a dumb question, but I've been through the forum and and all over looking for an answer. On top of the Enterprise pilot house (mid-1942) there's what looks like a small gun director, it is forward of the forward Mk33 director and looks like a smaller version. It looks just like a gun director, but I can't match it to anything. Anyone know what this is?

All three Yorktown's were originally built with small surface range finders atop the pilot house, in front of their forward 5 inch director units. No doubt, the wisdom of carriers engaging in a surface gun duel was reconsidered around this time. These were deleted from CV5 and CV8 before each left Norfolk, but CV6 was last to lose it, sometime in early 42. It was there in her Nov. 1941 Life Magazine photo series, but gone in her April 1942 Tokyo raid photos, so it seems it was removed in her PHNY visit prior to the Tokyo raid, when her initial 20mm guns were installed. She did not stop long enough for such work at any other point in that 11/41 to 4/42 time frame.

[Guest]

Thanks. I thought it was a rangefinder. Nice to know it was gone by Midway. Doesn't seem to have been replaced by anything.

[Pierre Marchal]

I made my Enterprise with the floating dry dock plan . I got those plans many years ago ,and I saw some big mistakes such as the front elevator ,partly going to the right ,but not in the center . Also ,the same problem on the level below .This is the reason why ,my "Enterprise " at scale 1/500 is wrong (made in 1990 ) . May be ,those problems are corrected now . Except that ,I have appreciated those plans ,and the FDD plans in general . You say that you have downloaded hundred of photos . Where did you find those photos ? from my part, I could not .
I like very much your models . Go on .

[Admiral John Byng]

Sad photo of Enterprise:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-US-Navy-Ai ... 5d4bd5ff70

I didn't realise she survived until 1958.

[Cliffy B]

An interesting and still sad shot: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/imag ... 36995c.htm

CV-6 should be in pristine condition as a museum ship in that photo with CVN-65 being commissioned on the other side of the pier. Someday I'll build that...

[PaulB]

Hi all, I'm finishing up the TM 1/700 Enterprise as she was at Midway (very nice model btw). I have the Warships Pictorial Yorktown class book and a book on the Enterprise for references.

I have a question on the placement of the 1.1" gun tub that sits on the small deckhouse just in front of the island. On the kit, the gun tub sits flush with the front of the deckhouse. The photos look like the gun tub hangs over the front, but all the photos I have indicating this are from a distance or from a later period. Does anyone have any information on the placement of the gun tub on the deckhouse at Midway? Thanks for any help.

[Dick J]

The Yorktown and Enterprise were built with their #2 1.1" mounts installed toward the back outboard edge of the deckhouses they were mounted on. When splinter screens were added, the tubs overhung the back and outboard sides of the structures. This was masked a bit by the canvas dodger on the rail at the front of the deckhouse on Enterprise as seen here:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020694.jpg
Hornet was built with the gun toward the front of the deckhouse, making the tub overhang the front. This was to allow for the director tower that was mounted behind it. When Enterprise received her first 4 quad 40MM (between the Eastern Solomons battle and Santa Cruz) the new tub for #2 mount was positioned overhanging the front of the deckhouse.

[Guest]

Thanks for your response, Dick. I had seen the Hornet picks of the tub overhanging the front, which is partly why I thought maybe it was the same on Enterprise. Good to know that's not correct. I had also seen the picture you attached, which is one of the ones I had a hard time making out the front of the gun tub. After your explanation, I see that pic differently and agree with you.

I think I'll leave the kit piece as is.

[TOMLABEL]

Pic new to me. Courtesy of R. Bean from another site.

CV6 May 1942 prior to Midway. (I mislabeled the pic when I saved it.)

[Michael Vorrasi]

Pic new to me. Courtesy of R. Bean from another site.

CV6 May 1942 prior to Midway. (I mislabeled the pic when I saved it.)

It is a May 26, 1942 photo, one of several shot of the ship from several angles that day. This is actually a crop of a well known full length photo.

[TOMLABEL]

This is actually a crop of a well known full length photo.

I don't think I have seen this full length photo that this pic is a crop of. Is there a link to it?

Thanks.

TOMLABEL

[task force 58]

Question what would Enterprise CV-6 have looked like in April 1944 during raids on Hollaindia as part of TF 58.3?

[Timmy C]

Like an aircraft carrier

Seriously though, you might want to be more precise in your question - are you asking in terms of paint scheme? AA fit? Radars? Structural changes? All of the above?