Calling all HMS Vanguard (1944-1960) fans

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By the way, there are some interesting shots of the HMS Vanguard.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/hms-v ... ing-cruise


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The deck in front of the breakwater has a wooden deck structure. When painting with RN Deck Gray but that's no problem.

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Hello,
I need to gather some more references and drawings of Vanguard's 5.25 inch gun and turret. If anyone could send me copies or scans of the drawings, I would be appreciated. They will be used to design a 3D model of the turret and uploaded on Shapeways. :wave_1:

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DavidP wrote:how different are they from the kgv & dido classes?
Very different: they are considerably larger and hexagonal in planform (instead of round/oval).
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Hi all,
I am looking for more photos of the Vanguard 5.25" gun, especially close-ups. So far there are not many on the internet and all are of low res. If anyone got some better ones, please PM me or send them to the email aopaurshipmodels at gmail dot com

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Hi all,
Could anyone help me with the Vanguard 5.25 inch gun dimension info? O/A length of the gun is all needed...

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Well, from the butt-end of the gun house to the tip of the barrel...

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Any thoughts?

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Aop Aur wrote:Hi all,
I am looking for more photos of the Vanguard 5.25" gun, especially close-ups. So far there are not many on the internet and all are of low res. If anyone got some better ones, please PM me or send them to the email aopaurshipmodels at gmail dot com

Thanks in advance!
Aop

G'day Aop

Have you seen these?

http://www.zhanliejian.com/navweaps/WNB ... 1_pics.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/201504070732 ... teria=5.25

Plus some detailed info

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_525-50_mk1.php

HTH

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Hi Rod,
Thanks for the links. I have seen all of them. Navweaps says the overall gun length is 6.998 metres. It did not mention any differences between Vanguard gun version and the rest (KGV, Dido), so would it be possible that they are all of the same length? Vanguard still has enlarged gun houses...

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I still need comfirmation whether the Vanguard guns are identical in overall length to the rest (KGV, Dido, Spartan, etc.) The reason I have this question is the fact that Vanguard had enlarged gun houses, so the length could have been different.

Anyone?

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There is no indication of a new gun barrel being a part of the Vanguard's mounts, so 5.25"/50 remains 5.25"/50. Possibly a larger breach mechanism could have added to overall gun assembly length, but that would be inside the turret; externally there would be no difference in gun length.
Could they have used the larger gunhouse size to mount a longer barreled gun? Say, a 5.25"/60? Possibly, but that would likely have required a lot more changes to the machinery, and it wouldn't still be designated as a Mark of a twin 5.25"/50 gun mount.

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Thanks for the reply, Sean! It really helps. Now I could continue my design! :thumbs_up_1:

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Is anyone aware of a PE set for the Hasegawa 1/450 kit?
The most attractive project, to me, is the one that I've just heard someone say can't be done. :)
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Peter Hall of Atlantic Models produces the p.e. set.
Also, these have just been released in the last week. I plan to get a set of each:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2WRQG ... d=63990391
https://www.shapeways.com/product/KT3CN ... d=63997201
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Dave Rowe wrote:Peter Hall of Atlantic Models produces the p.e. set.
Also, these have just been released in the last week. I plan to get a set of each:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/2WRQG ... d=63990391
https://www.shapeways.com/product/KT3CN ... d=63997201
Those look great!

That kit leaves so much room for added detail it'd be a shame not to use it. I had thought about scratch-building turrets and/or retooling what's there, but those prices are quite reasonable so I might go that route.
The most attractive project, to me, is the one that I've just heard someone say can't be done. :)
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Does anybody happen to know the size(s) of Carley Floats Vanguard carried?
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I do not but the list of possible floats is (type and box size)

5 3ft 6in x 6 ft 12in
6 3ft 9in x 6ft 6in 13in
7 4ft x 7ft 14in
8 4ft 6in x 7ft 6in 14in
19 5ft x 8ft 14.5in
20 5ft x 10ft 15.5in
14 6ft x 10ft 16in
15 6ft6in x 10ft6in 17in
16 7ft x 12ft 18in
17 8ft x 12ft 19in
18 9ft x 14ft 20in

may be helpful to get the right type from pics?
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Thanks Evert-Jan. That's a start at least.
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These have been added to Shapeways this morning, a huge improvement over the blobs of plastic in the kit.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z5Q6F ... arketplace[
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