SS-336 USS Capitaine
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SS-336 USS Capitaine
Hello again all
Been off the board for awhile, but I am busy with another project. I am converting Revell's 1/72 scale Gato Class sub to a Balao Class circa 1963. While not technically a scratchbuild, there is quite a bit of that involved. Ok to post here, or somewhere else? Your thoughts.........Thanks, Bill W. 
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Bill it will be a treat and a pleasure to see your new build on this board.
go for it.
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Awesome man! Cant wait to see you tackle a sub. Will she be full hull?
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Cliffy B wrote:Awesome man! Cant wait to see you tackle a sub. Will she be full hull?
Waterline!
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I look forward to watching.
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Bills back
The amount of work needed to convert will be interesting to follow
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The amount of work needed to convert will be interesting to follow
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Go ahead! 
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Bill Wrote....
Waterline!
That the way ahead!!!
looking forward to see what you will do!
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Waterline!
That the way ahead!!!
looking forward to see what you will do!
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Lets see it .
Lets see it .
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Ok, Well here goes. As I said, while technically not a true scratchbuild, there are some areas that will be. Not much, but enough to make things interesting. I usually don't do kits, haven't for a long time.So this is a sort of break from true scratchbuilding. This will be a kit conversion. The Gato Class boats and Balao Class boats are very similar. In fact, the hull is about the same. The main differences are in the sail / conning tower arrangements. Other differences are structual and mechanical, and a few changes in the deck arrangement, but for modeling purposes these have no real bearing in the outward appearance of the boat.
Lets do a little history first... The USS Capitaine was built by the Electric Boat Company, Groton, CT. and was laid down Dec. 2, 1943, launched Oct. 1, 1944, commisioned Jan 26, 1945. She was laid up Feb. 10, 1950 in the Pac. Reserve Fleet at Mare Island. Re-entererd sevice Feb. 23, 1957. She was then reclassified "Auxilary Reaseach Submarine AGSS-336"on July 1, 1960. Served with the US Navy until March 1966 at which time she was transferred to Italy and renamed "Alfredo Cappallini S-507". Sold to Italy and struck from US Naval registry Dec. 5, 1977.
The model will be in the 1963 timeframe and is being built for a staff member at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, Ill. His name is Grant Haring and was in charge of the exhibit for the CVE-60 / DE-133 project I recently completed.He had the Gato Revell kit and I offered to convert and build it to the USS Capitaine, which he served on during the 1960's. He and his family were very gracious to me in my trip to Chicago, so I figured one good turn deserves another.
I was not planning on doing a build up of this, so I am pretty far along now. Being a plastic kit, I figured it would not go on this forum. But considering the replies, I'll try to illustrate what I am doing to date.Here's a listing of the modifications and changes to the Revell Gato kit:
1. Cut hull to waterline configuration.
2. Cover perforated decking with wood decking as per photos.
3. Delete all guns and railings.
4.Add cover plates where 5" guns were originally mounted.
6.Add engine exhaust ports, port and stb. side.
7. Replace Gato Class sail / conning tower with short Balao Class arrangement.
8. Add marker bouy stowage on stb. side aft, remove same from portside aft as molded on Revell kit.
9. Relocate fwd. accomodation ladder and marker bouy location.
10. Add a few scratchbuilt items to new sail / conning tower arrangement to match SS-336 as close as possible.
11. Add shutter doors to aft torpedo tubes in closed position.
Thats about it for the changes and modifications.Lets move on to photos...... Thats it for this post. More to come....Stay tuned! I continue on.
Lets do a little history first... The USS Capitaine was built by the Electric Boat Company, Groton, CT. and was laid down Dec. 2, 1943, launched Oct. 1, 1944, commisioned Jan 26, 1945. She was laid up Feb. 10, 1950 in the Pac. Reserve Fleet at Mare Island. Re-entererd sevice Feb. 23, 1957. She was then reclassified "Auxilary Reaseach Submarine AGSS-336"on July 1, 1960. Served with the US Navy until March 1966 at which time she was transferred to Italy and renamed "Alfredo Cappallini S-507". Sold to Italy and struck from US Naval registry Dec. 5, 1977.
The model will be in the 1963 timeframe and is being built for a staff member at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, Ill. His name is Grant Haring and was in charge of the exhibit for the CVE-60 / DE-133 project I recently completed.He had the Gato Revell kit and I offered to convert and build it to the USS Capitaine, which he served on during the 1960's. He and his family were very gracious to me in my trip to Chicago, so I figured one good turn deserves another.
I was not planning on doing a build up of this, so I am pretty far along now. Being a plastic kit, I figured it would not go on this forum. But considering the replies, I'll try to illustrate what I am doing to date.Here's a listing of the modifications and changes to the Revell Gato kit:
1. Cut hull to waterline configuration.
2. Cover perforated decking with wood decking as per photos.
3. Delete all guns and railings.
4.Add cover plates where 5" guns were originally mounted.
6.Add engine exhaust ports, port and stb. side.
7. Replace Gato Class sail / conning tower with short Balao Class arrangement.
8. Add marker bouy stowage on stb. side aft, remove same from portside aft as molded on Revell kit.
9. Relocate fwd. accomodation ladder and marker bouy location.
10. Add a few scratchbuilt items to new sail / conning tower arrangement to match SS-336 as close as possible.
11. Add shutter doors to aft torpedo tubes in closed position.
Thats about it for the changes and modifications.Lets move on to photos...... Thats it for this post. More to come....Stay tuned! I continue on.
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Bill
Interesting .
How large will the base be ? Rough water or calm ?

Interesting .
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Hello Richard, The base will be about 60" x 18" approx. Moderate seas.............Pacific Ocean...Richard J OMalley wrote:Bill
Interesting .How large will the base be ? Rough water or calm ?
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Mr Waldorf you are making it look so easy. I was thinking of waterlining my gato but did not dare to do it... Will be watching closely...

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Hello again
Continuing on with the conversion, the next step is to add the new sail / conning tower arrangement. I got the Balao Class arrangement from IBS, Iron Bottom Sound, run by Mario Grima. Many thanks to him for info. on subs. I am a bit vauge on submarines, this is my first sub project, so forgive me if I stumble along. Lets take a look......
Below are some more views of the new arrangement.
Some more fine tuning to do on the resin parts, then I will be ready for primer and final paintwork. Here are some overall views of the boat as of now....
All in all, a fairly simple conversion. On to primer next.....Stay tuned....more to come.....I continue on..........

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that is fair racing along!!!!!!
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Thanks Jim.....Its coming along. Water will be tricky!!JIM BAUMANN wrote:that is fair racing along!!!!!!
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Bill
She looks great .Nice of you to do that for him !

She looks great .Nice of you to do that for him !
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Hi Bill Transforming one boat into another and skillfully done .
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Thanks, Dave. Hopefully the seascape will look good ,too. In any event, I will give it my best shot. More photos coming soon......stay tuned...........Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Bill Transforming one boat into another and skillfully done .
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Hello again all
Continuing on with the SS-336 build, I have now primed the boat for final paintwork and made a few additions. Lets take a look...........
Heres some overall views of the boat.....
With the conversion now completed, I'll move on the final paintwork using Testor's and Tamiya paints, acrylic and enamels. Stay Tuned............More to come.........I continue on

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