Calling all HMS Hermes, HMS Eagle & HMS Courageous (WWII) fans

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Calling all HMS Hermes, HMS Eagle & HMS Courageous (WWII) fans

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I'm working on the 1/700 HP Models HMS Hermes kit, what color would her interior hangar have been in 1942?

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MODERATOR EDIT: Changed the name of the thread, incorporated Courageous Class as well. Added kits available and gallery entries.
Kits Available:
Hermes Class Kits:
1/700 HP Models HMS Hermes (resin)
1/700 Aoshima Hermes
1/700 Flyhawk Hermes 1942
1/700 Flyhawk Hermes 1937 "Coronation Review"

Eagle Class Kits:
1/700 HP Models HMS Eagle (resin)

Courageous Class Kits:
1/700 Triumph HMS Glorious (resin)
1/700 HP Models HMS Courageous (resin)
1/700 HP Models HMS Glorious (resin)
1/700 HP Models HMS Furious (resin)
1/700 Loose Cannon HMS Furious (WW1 hyrbird/resin)

Gallery Entries
HMS Hermes
1/700 HP Models HMS Hermes by Peter Fulgoney: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
1/700 Flyhawk HMS Hermes by Christian Hoeltge: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm

HMS Eagle
1/700 HP Models HMS Eagle by Peter Fulgoney: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

HMS Courageous
1/700 HP Models Courageous by Jerry Lloyd: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm

HMS Glorious
1/700 HP Models Glorious by Jerry Lloyd: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm

HMS Furious
Building the HP 1/700 HMS Furious by Jim Baumann: http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... rious.html
1/700 HP Models HMS Furious by Christoph Mentzel: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
1/1250 Neptun HMS Furious by Peter Ohm: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
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Wall were white and hangar decks are dark gray. Thank you David Alcock. :thumbs_up_1:




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I have 2400 scale mini's - not painted or mounted yet - here are the deck views along with AR
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Like about everything else, I have these guys in 1/2400.

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Hermes and Eagle take on provisions in a distant port sometime in late 1941.

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Courageous, Glorious, and Furious ride at anchor in late 1939.

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HMS Argus steams across a glassy Med.

I have several other pictures of these models over on the Google.

To save you the trouble of wading through:
Furious, Glorious, Hermes and Eagle, and HMS Audacity which I would also regard as rather early in her own peculiar way. Since Ark Royal has come up I have several photos of her: 1, 2, and 3. Further, here's another early-ish RN-ish aircraft carrier . . . of a sort: Empire MacAlpine and a few of her friends.

I might add that I wrote a post about my own conversion of one of Panzerschiffe's Courageous models. It's a bit old and thus on my "refit" schedule, but the basics of what I wrote there still form the foundation of what I do now. I gather I'm not the only person here modeling in "squint" scale. (Though I have modeled in larger scales on occasion.)
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Planning HMS Glorious in 1940 using the HP kit, I'm searching for information about the island. The few pictures from this period are poor, the only thing that can be made out that it was enlarged, the lower platform got bigger wind deflector and that uppermost level was made bigger too although its shape is unknown.

Anyone any further information?
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A test shot of Aoshima's 1/700 Hermes has been posted on their blog: http://ameblo.jp/aoshima-kumablog/entry ... 77461.html
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Thanks Timmy! :thumbs_up_1:






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All:

For all those anxiously anticipating the arrival of the Flyhawk HMS Hermes kit, here are some nice reference photos for you which should help you with your build:

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... es_d95.htm (please note that this photo collection extends over several pages--please view all the pages for some excellent close-up views)

http://bump.ru/page/adaptive/id31258/blog/4082101/

Enjoy!

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Good idea for a thread. Is there a good source for refit and air group history? What would it take to backdate the kit to a late '20s or early '30s fit?
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Has anyone bought the Aoshima Hermes yet? Just wondering if there any problems with it, such as if it is underscale like the Aoshima Wasp?

I'm also surprised the Aoshima and Flyhawk Hermes kits haven't been added to the list at the very first post of this thread.
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I am in the process of building the Aoshima kit. I measure it to be a millimeter under scale, but that could be me. It is not a bad Kit and I am pleased at the way it looks. It has nice detail especially the deck. I have also ordered the Flyhawk kit. I bought both because I'd like to see more early war carriers such as Courageous/Glorious /Furious/Eagle and more sales of these kits could lead to the others I want
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I am looking forward to ordering the Flyhawk Hermes kit. Flyhawk makes some mighty fine kits!! :cool_2:





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So let me get this straight... the Flyhawk Hermes has a full-hull option that can be separated if one wants to waterline it?
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Thanks to Mike E. for posting his very complete and informative review of the 1/700 Flyhawk Hermes kit at the link below!!

Flyhawk 1/700 HMS Hermes 1942 kit (Review)
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I thought it may be nice to post this one here also apart from the Flyhawk Hermes thread. The National Maritime Museum seems to be putting a number of 'as fitted' drawings of these early carriers on line currently.
The best way to get to them is to go to the main collections site here http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!cbrowse , put the ship name in the search box and once you have found one drawing click on the ship name in the lower right hand corner for more.
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Pieter:

Be careful. I don't think those are "as fitteds" as generally understood--but rather the initial design for Hermes which reflected here intended appearance at the time of her launch in 1919, to which numerous changes were made by the time that Hermes was completed in 1924, which changed her appearance in a number of important ways. So they are not of use for assessing the accuracy of the model.

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I'm never careful.
Anyway, the Hermes set includes both 1919 and 1924 plans and the sheer plan (ie lines) which did not really change after launch.
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